I think vinyl flips should be against the law!!!! Prime example inside

coinsarefun · July 15, 2012 3:02PM

Public announcement!!

Dealers and collectors should be made to look through their inventory and save what could be or could HAVE BEEN beautiful coins!!!

Prime example what happens to a beautifully toned proof kept in a vinyl flip and the dreadful PVC disease ruined it

Such a shame when this happens...............

Ok, public announcement over

lordmarcovan · July 15, 2012 3:05PM

It's just a penny. Spend it.

Srsly, tho'... ugh.

devious · July 15, 2012 3:06PM

While I think they are a nuisance, I'd much rather have legalization of marijuana before a ban on vinyl flips. But that's just me. I keep all my coins stored in saf-flips. I received some mercury dimes recently that were stored in vinyl flips. But the coins had no damage, but went straight to an acetone soak as a precautionary.

Did you keep that coin stored that way? Did you buy it like that? What's the story behind that particular proof?

coinsarefun · July 15, 2012 3:14PM

<< <i>While I think they are a nuisance, I'd much rather have legalization of marijuana before a ban on vinyl flips. But that's just me. I keep all my coins stored in saf-flips. I received some mercury dimes recently that were stored in vinyl flips. But the coins had no damage, but went straight to an acetone soak as a precautionary.

Did you keep that coin stored that way? Did you buy it like that? What's the story behind that particular proof?

>>

Well, can't help you out with the weed delima

But I can give you some background on the proof. On my way to Palm Springs yesterday I dropped by one of my delers I drop in on
occasionally, while looking through his album I saw this one and it looked like it was in that flip for years.

I thought on a wild chance I could save it so he gave it to me for free as a tester.........unsuccessful as you can see.

devious · July 15, 2012 3:18PM

At least you tried and it was free. Did you educate him on the use of vinyl flips? I find the antique stores and other odds and ends places in town happen to use vinyl flips often. I've yet to encounter a coin with the damage you posted of the 1962 proof above. It's a real eye opener seeing what they do to the coin. Scary! Then again, it is just a coin.

coinsarefun · July 15, 2012 3:22PM

<< <i>At least you tried and it was free. Did you educate him on the use of vinyl flips? I find the antique stores and other odds and ends places in town happen to use vinyl flips often. I've yet to encounter a coin with the damage you posted of the 1962 proof above. It's a real eye opener seeing what they do to the coin. Scary! Then again, it is just a coin.

>>

Yes, but he likes the "Mary Jane" to much to even look through what he has and get rid of the vinyl.
He probably doesn't remember half of what he has

But yes I gave him a lecture and he said......hey man chill out

NumisOxide · July 15, 2012 3:25PM

I agree. I remember when I first started collecting I bought PVC flips from my local dealer and used to use them. Once I became educated on the effects of PVC overtime from this coin board, I then discovered a new chemical to me called acetone!

Saflips are the only kind of flips I use now.

droopyd · July 15, 2012 7:23PM

<< <i>Yes, but he likes the "Mary Jane" to much >>

What does "Peter Parker" have to say about that?

Hotfootspin · July 16, 2012 4:02AM

I agree. It bugs me that these are still on the market. What bugs me more is that there are a few certain dealers who insist on putting their coins in these things. I've had several coins purchased from these dealers, put in a box when I got home, turned out to look like this a year later.

I do understand the TPG's like to receive coins in these flips because they are more pliable, easier to handle, and less likely to scratch the coin when pulling them out of the flip.

Mark

rooksmith · July 16, 2012 4:27AM

I only saw PCV damage once on a coin that was in an almost gelatinous coin flip.

Most coin flips are not made out of that rubbery stuff, but apparently do have have PCV, or at least reduced PCV. I avoid the PCV flips, but may have bought coins from a dealer who still uses them. They still sell them, though there are warnings on the web pages telling you not to use them for long term storage.

Not all coin flips are vinyl! And interestingly not all vinyl is PCV.
http://www.healthybuilding.net/pvc/SortingOutVinyls.html

There appear to be two PVC free brands, "Saflip" and "Supersafe". Both are available from Vernon Coin Center, and Saflips are available at Wizard Coin supply. links below.

http://www.coinsupplyexpress.com/Museum-Quality-Coin-Flips.aspx http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/product/saflips-2x2.html

Here is a quote from the Wizard Coin site:

<< <i>Saflip brand Mylar flips by E.T. Kointainer are the standard in archival safe flips suitable for long-term protection. They contain no oils or other additives and will not corrode or cloud your coins like other flips can. They come packaged in poly bags of 50 flips to keep them free from contamination. >>

I think vinyl flips should be against the law!!!! Prime example inside

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