Anyone have Auction '79 catalog handy?

Halfsense · July 11, 2012 10:52AM

Does anyone have handy a copy of the "apostrophe sales" Auction '79 catalog? I'm seeking the grade attributed at the time to lot #1433 (in the Rarcoa section). That's the Newlin specimen Brasher Doubloon (with EB punch mark on a wing). What's the grade given in the lot description?

Thank you,
-donn-

MrEureka · July 11, 2012 11:12AM

Choice AU

Halfsense · July 11, 2012 11:21AM

Thank you, Andy.

So, in 1979 some of the country's top catalogers described it as Choice AU. What a miraculous, astounding, amazing, incredible, mind-blowing (insert the appropriate adjective of your choice here) transformation this coin has made the past 33 years. It is now housed in a grading service (not PCGS) holder that states "MS 63."

-donn-

Buzzybest · July 11, 2012 11:25AM

Does anyone know where I can find copies of old Bowers and Merena auction catalogs from around 1990-1991?

MrEureka · July 11, 2012 11:29AM

So, in 1979 some of the country's top catalogers described it as Choice AU. What a miraculous, astounding, amazing, incredible, mind-blowing (insert the appropriate adjective of your choice here) transformation this coin has made the past 33 years. It is now housed in a grading service (not PCGS) holder that states "MS 63."

And other coins cataloged as CH AU have since been determined to be XF, badly cleaned, repaired, etc.

CaptHenway · July 11, 2012 12:03PM

<< <i>Thank you, Andy.

So, in 1979 some of the country's top catalogers described it as Choice AU. What a miraculous, astounding, amazing, incredible, mind-blowing (insert the appropriate adjective of your choice here) transformation this coin has made the past 33 years. It is now housed in a grading service (not PCGS) holder that states "MS 63."

-donn- >>

Good thing it was not an 1804 dollar............

tradedollarnut · July 11, 2012 12:07PM

There are multitudes of coins graded raw as Ch AU in auction catalogs now in MS holders at both major TPG services. The one that immediately comes to mind is the Norweb 1850-O dollar - cataloged as AU58 and now in my old Seated Dollar set as a very nice PCGS MS63. Or perhaps the Eliasberg 1795 dollar recently auctioned as NGC63 that also was cataloged as AU58.

There is absolutely nothing nefarious nor transformative about the various interpretations of high point friction.

ColonelJessup · July 11, 2012 12:08PM

How does this coin fall in the condition census? Is it still the best one? Did it bring a price commensurate with its rarity and quality?

Have you looked at the Childs' 1804 S$1. PCGS graded PR68. It's the absolutley best one. The King of Siam coin is PR67. When I held that coin raw in '84 I graded it PR64+ The Childs coin I graded PR66 and ungodly nice.

You should have done the Pittman Sale 20 years later. Coins grade CH AU were being graded MS64-MS65, I bought a 20-S Saint graded CH AU in that sale that graded 63 at both services. Not bought cheap. I could probably find 500+ undergraded coins in Pittman. Maybe 1000. You should have done any of over 200 sales from Stacks between 1979 and 2006 where raw 66 and 67 coins were described as choice. What could all this possibly mean?

What it means is that ANYONE can find anecdotal evidence that ANYTHING is true or false as long one is willing to suspend one's sense of proportion.

Sort of like when a coin puttied 10 years ago is used to suggest that the sky is still falling.

Buzzybest · July 11, 2012 1:13PM

Geesch! And all I wanted to know was where I could buy an old Bowers and Merena catalog. I already tried an internet search to no avail. Ok,you can carry on with the numistmatic civil war now.I'm done.

Broadstruck · July 11, 2012 1:18PM

<< <i>Geesch! And all I wanted to know was where I could buy an old Bowers and Merena catalog. I already tried an internet search to no avail. Ok,you can carry on with the numistmatic civil war now.I'm done. >>

Bryce Brown's Coin Auction Catalogs

Karl Moulton Coincats

Anyone have Auction '79 catalog handy?

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