Buying the "holder" and NOT the "card" ?

sjjs28

IMHO - This has got to be one of the ugliest PSA 7's out there - with the obvious rubber band damage and ex-corners at best.
And - a "Lighthouse" label?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1969-Topps-NOLAN-RYAN-533-PSA-7-NM-HOF-Mets-HIGH-END-CENTERED/202321806440?hash=item2f1b51c468:g:x-kAAOSwxtpa-3cZ

LarkinCollector

But, but ... "THIS ONE IS HIGH END CENTERED!!"

CSUrunandstun

that's a 4 or 5 if I send it in...

yoda99

Wow, that looks like a poor job of grading. Looks more like a 4 to me.

LarkinCollector

Maybe the grades got swapped on certs 28970084 & 28970085?

ETA: Found the 85 and thinking it's likely the case https://www.psacard.com/auctionprices/baseball-cards/1969-topps/mickey-mantle/auction/1671697

maddux69

For those that have been on here for a while, the seller is former board member bobbyw8469.

handyman

Card looks off as well. Corners are weirdly shaped. And with that much wear on the front corners you would thing the back would show wear.

dictoresno

yea I was on the fence about a 7 until I saw the lower corners. they look exactly like the corners on my PSA 4 1969 Topps Lou Brock. Definitely think its misgraded. Hell, I can barely tell the difference between my PSA 8 and PSA 7 1993 SP Jeters. And my PSA 7 looks NOTHING like this card.

JoeBanzai

Bottom corners are horrible!

tbonewilly

Actually I'm pretty sure this is the most ugly "7" out there. This is what happens when salt water gets inside the holder from a hurricane

Lesson of the day, don't put your holders in water!. They are not always waterproof!

dictoresno

@tbonewilly said:
Actually I'm pretty sure this is the most ugly "7" out there. This is what happens when salt water gets inside the holder from a hurricane

Lesson of the day, don't put your holders in water!. They are not always waterproof!

think its safe to say its no longer a 7 lol

miwlvrn

@dictoresno said:
yea I was on the fence about a 7 until I saw the lower corners. they look exactly like the corners on my PSA 4 1969 Topps Lou Brock. Definitely think its misgraded. Hell, I can barely tell the difference between my PSA 8 and PSA 7 1993 SP Jeters. And my PSA 7 looks NOTHING like this card.

I am confident that it was not misgraded, but that what you see is another example of a card that was graded correctly and then subsequently fell victim to mech error on the grade portion of the label, which is not an infrequent occurrence.

LarkinCollector

@miwlvrn said:

@dictoresno said:
yea I was on the fence about a 7 until I saw the lower corners. they look exactly like the corners on my PSA 4 1969 Topps Lou Brock. Definitely think its misgraded. Hell, I can barely tell the difference between my PSA 8 and PSA 7 1993 SP Jeters. And my PSA 7 looks NOTHING like this card.

I am confident that it was not misgraded, but that what you see is another example of a card that was graded correctly and then subsequently fell victim to mech error on the grade portion of the label, which is not an infrequent occurrence.

I concur, here's the next card in the sequence (an incredibly nice looking 4): https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1969-topps-mickey-mantle-yellow-letters-500-psa-vg-ex-4/a/151818-41069.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

dictoresno

@LarkinCollector said:

@miwlvrn said:

@dictoresno said:
yea I was on the fence about a 7 until I saw the lower corners. they look exactly like the corners on my PSA 4 1969 Topps Lou Brock. Definitely think its misgraded. Hell, I can barely tell the difference between my PSA 8 and PSA 7 1993 SP Jeters. And my PSA 7 looks NOTHING like this card.

I am confident that it was not misgraded, but that what you see is another example of a card that was graded correctly and then subsequently fell victim to mech error on the grade portion of the label, which is not an infrequent occurrence.

I concur, here's the next card in the sequence (an incredibly nice looking 4): https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1969-topps-mickey-mantle-yellow-letters-500-psa-vg-ex-4/a/151818-41069.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

you sure that didn't get a 4 because of its severe OC and maybe no qualifier selected? Maybe thats a PSA 7 MC or OC but with no qualifier it got bumped to a 4.

LarkinCollector

@dictoresno said:

@LarkinCollector said:

@miwlvrn said:

@dictoresno said:
yea I was on the fence about a 7 until I saw the lower corners. they look exactly like the corners on my PSA 4 1969 Topps Lou Brock. Definitely think its misgraded. Hell, I can barely tell the difference between my PSA 8 and PSA 7 1993 SP Jeters. And my PSA 7 looks NOTHING like this card.

I am confident that it was not misgraded, but that what you see is another example of a card that was graded correctly and then subsequently fell victim to mech error on the grade portion of the label, which is not an infrequent occurrence.

I concur, here's the next card in the sequence (an incredibly nice looking 4): https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1969-topps-mickey-mantle-yellow-letters-500-psa-vg-ex-4/a/151818-41069.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

you sure that didn't get a 4 because of its severe OC and maybe no qualifier selected? Maybe thats a PSA 7 MC or OC but with no qualifier it got bumped to a 4.

Can't be certain of anything, but the Mick as a 9(OC)/7 makes a lot more sense than a 4 for that one and a 7 on the Ryan.

PaulMaul

There’s no way the Mick should be a straight 7. A 9OC maybe, but that doesn’t automatically equate to a 7 with no qualifiers if it doesn’t meet the centering requirements for that grade, which it doesn’t seem to.

mikelowell25

The 59 Robby falls under the category of "Buy the card, not the molder"