Just discovered a new variation

ReggieCleveland

This discovery will shake the hobby world to its very core! Behold, I present to you... The 1990 Donruss Greg Swindell MVP "G Under S" variation. In all seriousness, if anyone has 90 Donruss and is as mentally disturbed as I am would you mind checking to see if you have one? Curious to see if there's 14 billion of them or just 8 billion of them. Thanks

Arthur

Batpig

I wouldn't call it a variation. The black printing is just shifted.

PROMETHIUS88

Arthur, you have WAAAYYYY too much time on your hands, lol!

ReggieCleveland

@Batpig said:
I wouldn't call it a variation. The black printing is just shifted.

The black printing is fine, it's the white that didn't get aligned right.

You're obviously not familiar with the 1991 Topps set. If there's a second one of these out there I'm rolling with variation and adding it to my ultra rare collection, along with my '90 Topps Rick Wrona.

Arthur

Gemyanks10

I don’t think it’s even possible to put together a true 1991 Topps baseball master set is it? I think I remember reading either a thread here, or across the street about the truly countless variations of that set and some new ones people are even still discovering. I love all these junk era sets, but I really think I would lose my mind trying to put together master sets of them lol, kudos to you guys that are doing the hard work finding these “variations” and making people like me aware of them...

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ReggieCleveland

This latest case is, I think, the very first cards ever printed that year. The shading, poor alignment and cutting, half-arse print jobs, it's really, really bad QC and that's saying something for a set that has really, really bad QC.

I honestly picture a few guys down on the floor waiting for the word. One keeps yelling up to the suits "can we start?" while getting no response. Meanwhile, his meek partner is just carelessly loading sheets from different piles into the printer because he just doesn't give AF. That's my case. That's what I'm dealing with right now. They found the guys that printed 1970s O-Pee-Chee and convinced them to come out of retirement.

Arthur

countdouglas

Just great!... the last thing I needed was to get sucked down a rabbit hole on my holiday! Haha!

I kept only one hand collated set of 1990 Donruss, and either tossed the rest or gave them all away. I probably had 10,000+ at one time.

Anyway, I dug that 90 set out, and I just quickly thumbed through several stacks, and did notice that random cards had much darker red printing. Every single one of those that had a shade of red that stood out from the rest is missing the period after INC, however, of the handful from the "control" group that had the lighter red, it's probably 60/40 that have the period, while others did not.

All of these cards were purchased in 1990 in the Midwest. I recall pulling a couple of Gonzales reverse negatives, and seem to recall getting some switched backs and stat line errors, etc, but sold those of long ago, I'm sure. There may still be a few tucked away in my various boxes somewhere.

The Swindell MVP that I have in this set is the lighter version with the aligned printing.

bishop

Arthur-- glad you finally noticed this one. It was all Bob could talk about in Arizona this year.

ReggieCleveland

@bishop said:
Arthur-- glad you finally noticed this one. It was all Bob could talk about in Arizona this year.

You going to respond to my PM, Captain Poopypants?

Arthur

Sdub

The bigger discovery is here that Swindell was an MVP? Never heard of this guy.

Stone193

I'd check if I knew where my 90D was Arthur.

What's with the "white dot" on his nose? WDON variation?

bishop

That is likely more valuable than those common Aqueous versions

ReggieCleveland

Found another, three different versions now. Someone needs to notify the president.

saucywombat

They're in storage.

Now I'll have to look.

Thanks

ReggieCleveland

Don't forget these:

1990 Donruss
The following cards have either A- All Star Game Performance or B- Recent M.L. Performance on the back -637,650,654,660,663,673,674,676,683,692,695,697,70 1,703,705,707,708,710,712,715
All Puzzle pieces come with or without a period in front of each puzzle number. A 3rd variation for 43,44,45 is a period only before the 43.
Wax issued cards come with either INC or INC. in the copyright on back.
Splatter Grand Slammer inserts---- have 13 splatter patterns (all players?) without the Black bar in back borders and 1 splatter with bar
Splatter Base-1 variation with INC and 2 different splatter with INC. (all players?)
Splatter All –Star---1 splatter variation of correct,INC -2 splatter variations of correct ,INC. -2 splatter variations of correct w/ INC.- 1 splatter variation of error,INC
BC-12 Smoltz A- Glavine photo (mustache) B- Correct
1 Bo Jackson A- Redone i in Diamond Kings B- Normal
3 Ruben Sierra A- Small line in top back border B - No line
10 Brian Downing A- Reverse Negative B- Correct
15 Ozzie Guillen A- Red dot by foot on front B- No red dot
18 Howard Johnson A- Bottom of 18 missing on back B- Normal C- Errant dashed line by upper left border on front
20 Chris Bosio A- Errant dashed line by upper left border on front B- No errant dashed line
24 Pete O’Brien A-Fuzzy red line in Diamond Kings flag with thin red line in Diamond Kings banner with whiteish line in banner B- Normal
33 Juan Gonzalez A- Reverse Negative B- Correct
67 Walt Weiss A-Break in stats border on back B- Full border
100 Checklist A- 1-129 B- 1-125
113 Kelly Gruber A- DOB Feb 22 B- DOB Feb 26
154 Jesse Orosco A- Line under r on front B- Line behind r
159 Andy Hawkins A-Check mark in upper left part of pic B-Airbrushed check mark
168 Dale Murphy A- Half line thru D B- Normal
170 Kirk Mccaskill A- DOB Apr 19 B- DOB Apr 9
200 Checklist A- 130-231 B- 126-223
206 George Bell A- G open loop B- G filled
217 Scott Garrelts A- DOB Oct 20 B- DOB Oct 30
233 Eric Davis A- E and r joined B- Normal
240 Marty Barrett A-Nick in Black line above team name B- full line
270 Gregg Jefferies A- Open G and J B- Filled G and J
300 Checklist A- 232-333 B- 224-321
321 Jeff Hamilton A- Solid top line B- Break 1/19 from right front
347 Bip Roberts A- Line breaks B B- Normal
368 Kirk Gibson A- DOB May 25 B- DOB May 28
400 Checklist A- 334-435 B- 322-419
405 Sergio Valdez A- Broken line thru S B- Normal
408 Jeff Innis A- Mostly Red scratch B- Upper right scratch more White
425 David Wells A- Leaf touches border B- Gap between Maple leaf and border
500 Checklist A- 436-537 B- 420-517
523 Andy Nezelek A- DOB ’85 B- DOB ‘65
573 Lance Johnson A- Part of L missing in first name on front B-Complete L
583 Kevin Hickey A- Black line thru thru K in Kevin B- Normal
585 Jeff Pico A- A- Gap ¾ from right side B- Solid lower line
600 Checklist A- 538-639 B- 518-617
619 Shawn Hillegas A- A- Gap ¾ from right side B- Solid lower line
637 Terry Steinbach A- Blue 1” scratch upper corner B- White 1” scratch upper corner
639 Jack Morris A- Black line thru J in Jack B- Normal
643 Mike Schmidt A- Large Black lines (factory set only) B- Small black lines
650 Bo Jackson A- All Star,INC (no dot) B- All Star,INC.(dot) C-Recent M.L.,INC (no dot) D- Recent M.L.,INC. (dot)
659 Nolan Ryan A- #665 back B- Correct back
660 Harold Baines A- All Star….,Line thru star B- All Star……,No line thru star C- Recent M.L…..,Line thru star D- Recent M.L…….,no line thru star
665 Nolan Ryan A- #659 back B- Correct back
673 Ruben Sierra A- All Star,INC (no dot) B- All Star,INC.(dot) C-Recent M.L.,INC (no dot) D- Recent M.L.,INC. (dot)
674 Pedro Guerrero A- All Star,INC (no dot) B- All Star,INC.(dot) C-Recent M.L.,INC (no dot) D- Recent M.L.,INC. (dot)
692 Ryne Sandberg A- All Star,INC (no dot) B- All Star,INC.(dot) C-Recent M.L.,INC (no dot) D- Recent M.L.,INC. (dot)
695 Eric Davis A- Recent M.L., E and r joined B- All Star,E and r joined C- All Star, E and r seperated
699 George Canale A- G all White B- Line thru right loop,INC (no dot) C- Line thru right loop,INC. (dot)
700 Checklist A- 640-BC26 w/716 B- No 716 C- 618-716
701 Julio Franco A- All Star,Partial 19 in 1989 B- All Star,Normal C- Recent M.L.
705 Tony Gwynn A- Recent M.L. Performance,INC. (dot) B- Recent M.L. Performance,INC (no dot) C- All Star
708 Benito Santiago A- Recent M.L.,INC. (dot) B- Recent M.L.,INC (no dot) C- All Star
715 Kevin Mitchell A- Recent M.L.,INC. (dot) B- Recent M.L.,INC (no dot) C- All Star
716 A Bartlett Giamati A- Photo cropped lower B- Photo cropped 1mm higher Note- Card also found with no Black lines on back

divecchia

@ReggieCleveland said:
Found another, three different versions now. Someone needs to notify the president.

Arthur,

This last one looks to have the perfect alignment as there is no gapping between the white letters and the black lines. I think this is what they were shooting for.

Donato

ReggieCleveland

I'm on fire!

1991 Topps Jim Abbott splooge variation

Arthur