Home U.S. Coin Forum

When did the U.S. Mint start using dated hubs to make working dies?

CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

Does anybody have a link to a reference that can confirm WHEN the U.S. Mint started using dated hubs to sink working dies with the dates already on them, thus eliminating the need to hand punch dates into working dies?

It is my understanding that the new gold designs of 1907 and 1908 had dated hubs, and that the technique was phased in on other denominations. What I need to know is, when was it phased in? At the start of 1908 on some denominations, in the middle of the year on others, or what?

Bill Fivaz confirmed to me that some 1908 cent and dime dies show varieties caused by hand punching dates.

Any hep would be appreciated.

TD

Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.

Comments

  • jmski52jmski52 Posts: 23,149 ✭✭✭✭✭

    D. Carr might know...

    Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally

    I knew it would happen.
  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 17, 2018 9:26PM

    It was done in 1853 for several silver denominations.
    http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1853wavarpage.htm

    But perhaps you meant to ask "When did they switch to this technique permanently?"

  • MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,188 ✭✭✭✭

    An interesting question, and I have no answer, so here is a BTT in hopes someone can help.

    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, an interesting question !!! :)

    Timbuk3
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @yosclimber said:
    It was done in 1853 for several silver denominations.
    http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1853wavarpage.htm

    But perhaps you meant to ask "When did they switch to this technique permanently?"

    Yes, because of the great recoinage of silver at the new weights, when they needed so many dies that it was cost effective to make a dated hub that they would use for one year and then discard.

    Obviously in modern times the coinage had increased to the point that the demand for dies justified the use of dated hubs. I am just trying to pin down exactly when this transition took place. Did it take place during 1908 or after 1908, starting in 1909. That is the question I need answered.

    Does anybody have the Mint Report for 1908 and/or 1909 in their library?

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,624 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Need an answer on the 1908 dating. Any ideas?

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file