Good Charlotte: Unexpected pick-up (Now Back from ATS with Images)
Weiss
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**Really great insight from everyone. The images I posted were at the coin shop, quick snaps with my cell under the glare of their swivel counter light--the color is a little more mellow in hand.
The coin was sent ATS where it was graded VF-25. I was thrilled that it straight-graded--it's so not in my wheel house and I know there are so many factors that could have effected this piece in its almost 170 year, rough and tumble history.
Compared to the other pieces I was able to research that first day, I was hoping for a 30. All in all I think 25 is a solid, conservative grade. I'll post images of the piece slabbed when it finishes its journey back.
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This piece came into one of the local B&Ms a few weeks back. Older couple, probably selling grandmom's stash. They knew it was gold but apparently had no idea it was a better piece. The dealer claims they paid better than average and I believe them.
I was the first to see it, and the dealer offered it to me at a decent price.
Really pretty old golden brown over what seemed like perfectly respectable surfaces--and just a little dirty like you'd want her to be. But raw branch mint gold seems like such a crap shoot and a relatively high dollar one at that.
I thought about it for about an hour. Did a little quick research online. Wavered back and forth a half dozen times, but ultimately figured "It's not the kill, but the thrill of the chase". Went back and grabbed it.
Grade posted today. What do you think?
--Severian the Lame
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Very sexy in the card board.
I have a great Good Charlotte story I will share with you one day
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Personally Fine-15 but easily worth VF money. I'm going to bet it is graded VF-35 by a TPGS. Strike has eliminated much of the details.
Nice, VF35
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
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Good call to purchase a wholesome gold-rush-year piece. Hmm... I think VF-30.
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Nice score!
30 was my initial reaction
I agree with VF30
1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
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I am at 25.
VF35
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30
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35
Boy, that's nice.
30.
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25
A nice piece. I would call it a low VF-30.
Very nice, clean surfaces. I’ll give it a 30-35.
A very respectable VF-25. Nice coin!
VF30, maybe even 35 on a good day. I like it a lot.
it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide
I love it at a 30
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Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Honestly, I can’t stop staring at the four staples!
30, Nice score!
Upon a closer look it seems yours has the same die crack as mine, it goes from the rim at about 7 O'Clock just below the U in UNITED to the olive branch just to the left of the eagle's claw.
it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide
first impression... 30. Looks nice, congrats!
VF 30
The obverse is a Fine-15, and the reverse is a VF. I'd say the coin is worth VF money, so I'd put it in a VF-20 holder.
Yep. PCGS Coinfacts indicates the die break on the reverse is the "usual die state". Those without the break are rare.
http://www.pcgscoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/8241
--Severian the Lame
I love it!
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EDIT: I should add that IMO It belongs in a "details" slab or they net graded it down below VF-30. The second coin posted is the "right" color.
Bump with grade reveal in the first post up top.
--Severian the Lame
Very nice Charlotte gold... and a neat gold rush year.... too late for GTG, but agree with 25... Cheers, RickO
Interesting, in the reveal the OP indicated he took pics at the coin shop so bad lighting probably contributed to the "off" color. The second coin, mine, is in a NGC VF Details cleaning slab.
Which leads me to believe you can trick some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time but you just can't properly grade a coin from a picture on the internet.
it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide
The second coin pictures are way too dark (on my screen at least) to tell if it would have straight graded or not. The first coin looked ok to me.
ill go 25. how ever though in any case it is a gooood pick up. if it goes 30 thats even better
@tommy44 said: "Interesting, in the reveal the OP indicated he took pics at the coin shop so bad lighting probably contributed to the "off" color. The second coin, mine, is in a NGC VF Details cleaning slab. Which leads me to believe you can trick some of the people all of the time, all of the people some of the time but you just can't properly grade a coin from a picture on the internet."
As to this: "...you just can't properly grade a coin from a picture on the internet. NO CIGAR!
IMO, it is done every day with excellent results by thousands of folks here and on Internet auctions, mostly by those much better at it than I am.
Very, very nice!!
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Just for giggles & reference... here are my 1849-C and 1850-C HEs. The '49-C is an earlier reverse die, without the "patch of frost" under the eagle's left (facing) wing, and subsequent die break from the reverse rim to the "U" in UNITED, on to olive leaves. The '50-C shares the same reverse die as your '49-C, with the "patch" and die break.
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Uhhh, @CharlotteDude ...you want to trade?
--Severian the Lame
That '49-C was the one that started it all for me... first Charlotte mint coin I purchased in the wild (raw)- circa 1991.
Steve
Congrats . . . Nice pickup on a coin with plenty of meat still on the bone!
1947-P & D; 1948-D; 1949-P & S; 1950-D & S; and 1952-S.
Any help locating any of these OBW rolls would be gratefully appreciated!
I want a Charlotte piece... Someday.
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Mice score....it would make a great 50th birthday gift!
...and cheaper than a pair of custom boots.
Weiss, that's a nice piece I'd be delighted to own. Enjoy!
Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.
I just checked my 1850-C and even though it's a well worn F15 the die crack is still visible. Maybe even the patch if I squint a little. Even though I've been collecting $5 libs for nearly 50 years I'm still learning. That's what makes collecting and this forum so much fun.
it's crackers to slip a rozzer the dropsy in snide
Just back from ATS, with natural sunlight ~4:00 pm central 04-17-18:
--Severian the Lame
Very nice!
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That's a really rare and popular issue, I saw a few auction results in VF on Coinfacts: https://coins.ha.com/itm/a/1258-5623.s
Cheese?
Even though the total mintage is relatively low 1849-C $5 half eagle’s are one of the most commonly available Charlotte $5’s.
That coin looks great in your picture in the holder.