1924 Washington Senators team picture autographed
Yankeesfanizhere77
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Hello everyone,Nice to be here,I found a large pile of Associated Press pictures in my grandfather's basement a couple of weeks ago. He used to work for the New York Times, Providence Journal etc etc. I found a bunch of pictures like Mickey Mantle dropping a Fly ball, Joe DiMaggio with a hurt knee, Joe louis fights and many more.all these pictures have Associated Press stamps on the back and they have a full story on the front typed out on paper and purple and black letters. There was one interesting one that was in the middle of the bunch and it was a 1924 Washington Senators picture but it's signed by a lot of the players. The thing that concerns me was this some kind of publicity picture? I only see the last names of the players. I did research a lot of the autographs and they look like they were signed by the actual players with real old ink. I left some pictures up so people can look at them it's a very beautiful picture I just wonder why only last names are on the picture.? Thank you any help would be great.
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Hi and welcome!
On the sigs? I'm guessing the "same" person ID'ed the people he/she recognized in the pic.
E.g. Muddy Ruel - signed his sig with an "R" similar to Babe Ruth.
and Goose Goslin:
Still a really cool pic!
Of interest?
They went to the WS that year. I - coincidentally - have a program:
I'd sure like to see the other photos of Mantle e.g.
Hi, hello, how are ya? welcome.
Great picture.
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Ralph
Nice pic, but without a doubt, sorry to say the same person signed those names.
Hope ya post those other pics as well.
Hi everyone I really appreciate the feedback, I don't really know too much about these except that my grandfather used to work for certain newspaper Publications in the sports department and he had lots of friends over the years as well but I have so many others of Joe Louis, other boxers, Joe DiMaggio, Phil Rizzuto getting run down at second base a whole bunch of them I'll post as many as I can in the next couple of days so you guys can see them but they really nice pictures fantastic one-of-a-kind stuff thank you so much again for the help I really appreciate it. Me and my wife and not collectors of these things but I sure do know that a lot of people had contacted me on them in a couple of months ago when I sent them out to Christy's to find out what they were so I guess some of these pictures all one-of-a-kind and we're only taken for certain newspapers they weren't flooded all over the place but the original pictures like these are kind of hard to come by.
Mike
Hiya Mike
I'm no expert on this kind of stuff. And if you've contacted an AH like Christie's? I'm sure you're in good hands.
Now to photos?
Big newspapers could afford to send their own photographer out to cover events around the US and perhaps globe.
Other - small venues - could not.
So, they relied on News Service photos from agencies like AP, UPI, Acme e.g. to supply them with photos.
Along with first generation photos, these same agencies "wired" photos to papers around the country - so a wire photo is not as coveted as a photo taken off of the negative from what I understand.
And thus, Type I's are the most valuable.
What makes it a bit easier? News service photos from UPI e.g. will often times "date stamp" (or write in) the back of the photo along with a stamp of their logo.
This gets into "type" photos which gets kind of complicated. From memory - a Type I photo was from the original negative taken within a year or so of the actual event.
As far as i know a lot of them have stamp dates on them...
Well here are some pics i have taken... Mantles Rookie year team photo, DiMaggio, Redskins versus Green Bay Packers in 1951.. lots of em.
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lots and lots of great Sports moments enjoy guys.
Some incredible photos Mike!
One thing to consider?
Giving them to PSA for authentication - those that come back Type I and encapsulated should do really well if you're planning to sell depending on what their fees are? Have no idea.
Just a consideration.
Also, how to tell a news service photo from a cheaper "wire photo?"
Get out a magnifier. When you look at the "edge" of an arm/sleeve of a player - if the edges look jagged rather than smooth? It's a wire photo.
Fantastic photos! Thanks for sharing.
Awesome!
Here are the backs of some.. plus the players sleeves magnified a little.
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Some just old yellow glue..
Great photos there, you have some gems.
That is some fantastic stuff you have there! I loved every one of them
Found more.. some have crayon writing and arrows on them.. probably placement for the picture I guess for the size of the newspaper I would think?
The pics of course are great, and what adds to the viewing fun is the description of the pic.
I was thinking (
) if Topps ever wanted to do a "superstar blunders" series in a card set, they would buy that Mantle 4-pic from ya. LOL
If you notice Mike - this one is a "wirephoto" from AP - 1953.
Good one to check what I was talking about.
Notice in this wire photo (from my file) - the edge of Ted Williams suit looks jagged/saw toothed?
Real photos - the outlines - like of a suit - will appear smooth.
Ahhh i see.. out of all of these i would think i have a lot of type 1's possibly... i already had crazy offers for all these pictures. Mantles especially.
Anything Mantle from that era seems to get amazing interest. And by "amazing interest" I mean high prices on everything.
One thing about Mantle that many don't know is that he was a very interesting story teller. Most sports stars tell their stories, and it is boring as heck to listen to, no matter what they did. Mantle tells his stories with a natural born enthusiasm and fun that makes it quite enjoyable to listen to.
Doesn't hurt the value of his items either that he played his entire career for the New York Yankees.