Auction Prices Realized
Dpeck100
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I saw in my email inbox a message from PSA. They are rolling out an auction prices realized search function. I tested it out a little and it looks pretty cool.
Nice to see them constantly bringing new features like this to their website.
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I like this step and figured they would get here eventually and compete more directly with VCP.
That said, the organization, layout and navigation on a phone for various grades/prices for a given card could use some major improvement.
Is this service free for CC members?
It looks great. How much is it?
I am logged in and it worked for me. Assume part of a membership of some kind. The Platinum level is active so that might be the reason I can see it.
I hope it stays free and they don't tack on a price down the road. PWCC has a great database for auction prices realized, but obviously it is only for their auctions. Good step in the right direction by PSA.
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The biggest lesson I've learned in this hobby, and in life, is that if you have a strong conviction, you owe it to yourself to see it through. Don't sell yourself, or your investments, short. Unless the facts change. Then sell it all.
I am not a club member and I tested it. So far it is free, but I bet that changes.
I hope it stays free. I liked it.
Shane
Nice addition to close out the year. Pretty user friendly on a tablet.
It looked to me to just be the highest sale point of a particular card ever, did i miss something
You can drill down into prior auction and BIN results.
Looks nice, but doesn't seem to have as much data as VCP. One example: PSA 10 1977 Star Wars Wonder Bread Jawas. PSA lists 1 going back to 2016 (doesn't list the lastest one from Aug 2017); VCP lists 4 going back to 2014 (including the lastest from Aug 2017)
Interestinly PSA uses the term "realized" instead of "sold". I wonder if that's because of so many of these auctions have non-paying winners, and using the term "sold" may be misleading, which it is IMO. What we need is a website with Auction Prices Realized and Payment Verified.
Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
Prefer to buy in bulk.
Or maybe it is even smarter and it is purposely ignoring the PSA 10 1977 Star Wars Wonder Bread Jawas because the sale wasn't legit. That would be awesome if they sifted through the junk. But both PSA's tool and VCP both have plenty of bad data. I already tested it quite a bit.
Will this kill VCP?
The data mining software they both use doesn't have a brain. Very easily manipulated; as we know from the 2016 Buyers Group/Club. It wouldn't be that hard to add some program language to exclude certain sales, or identify outliers. Until then, we'll have to go it alone, and use our own sniffer.
Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
Prefer to buy in bulk.
I think it is really cool and like it a lot. Pictures of most historic auctions. First rule of marketing give someone something for free, they like it and then can’t live without it when they’ll start charging for it. I think it will happen
The tool needs some testing and we are the test dummies. I do not see a feedback thread with which they will be taking advice and improving. Where is the submit bug button, because they are present.
As far as the price or free, if it isn't included with membership I would be shocked. I just don't see an extra service but I could be wrong.
To the credit of the PSA Auction Prices link, I do like that they have a photo loaded of the card associated with the line item auction so for curiosity's sake, you can track the movement of a specific card (i.e., you can verify if it is the same cert number) as opposed to just sales of a card fitting the description but not necessarily the same on of it (different certs). Interesting to see sales price flux on a single card over a few months of it being flipped quickly by multiple owners.
[for example, just noticed that the same card went for $760 in Sept., then $400 in Oct., then $1,100 in Dec., with 3 different sellers on record for the card]
Also, I can't remember off the top of my head: if a card is subbed for a bump and gets a higher grade, does it keep the same cert or is that cert retired and the card issued a new one? Would be interesting to get a visual by using the completed auction sales data to see which cards bump if you could track the cert over time.
Bumped cards do keep the same Cert. #
They should just buy VCP.
...if they want to give away money
agreed
For all the good data that has been loaded in their link, I did happen to notice it is missing quite a lot as well. Out of curiosity I looked for some of the PSA items I have sold on ebay and found that several were not in their records.
This. I imagine that conversation might of already occured. Ceases to amaze me why these companies spend millions building software platforms that need security, updates, software engineers, hardware, debugs, data mining, cooling, power, space, etc., when it's already there. Personally, VCP gives me everything that I need.
Is there a compelling reason to switch? Is there a large value add here? I don't see it. Unless they filter out the BS auctions that are never paid for. But that takes a human, not a computer.
Collecting Unopened from '72-'83; mostly BBCE certified boxes/cases/racks.
Prefer to buy in bulk.
Finally got around to checking it out, some thoughts from a non-VCP user ...
Personally, I prefer it to VCP due to coverage and cost.
Not sure how the PSA system works but with VCP, if I recall correctly, the BIN prices show not when the sale actually happens (even though the date of the sale is recorded correctly) but when the listing would have ended based on initial duration of the listing. I may be mistaken so @BobbyVCP please correct me if I am.
One thing I wish they could fix, is that only cards that have "PSA" in the title, are listed in their new database.
I just won a PSA 1 1940 Gum Superman #72. It was the fourth one auctioned last month. The first three are all listed in PSA's new auction listing. The only difference (other than the grade), is that the one I got doesn't have "PSA" in the auction title, whereas the other three do have "PSA" in the title.
Steve
I am looking at it with every purchase I contemplate. Very positive, I like it a lot.
"not sure what the lag time is before sales are captured, most recent I saw was from 1/1"
I bid on a few 1970 Topps baseball ending last night (lost, again) and the prices are posted on the PSA site this morning.
Someone said an educated consumer is your best customer.
Can you build and track the cost of a set on this software? VCP allows you to build and save. I use it to track auctions and decide if the sales price of the set is in line with each individual sales price of each card.
Going through this a little more. Seems to be very comprehensive and you can't beat the price. Amazing how some sellers are so out of touch with recent prices.