But, as a business, beholden to itself and its shareholders, it is the right thing to do for PCGS to continue to grade bullion, as long as there is a market for it.
@bronco2078 said: "Collect what you want to collect for the sheer joy of it. That's not what this is about."
I agree with the first part. But this is about collecting for the joy of it. You see, Many folks like me love modern bullion coins from all over the world in TPGS slabs with colorful "Early Release" special labels! I'm sorry to read that you wish to infringe on our joy!!
@bronco2078 continued: "This is about flipping and monetizing collectibles. As a collector thats not in my best interest to enable."
AFAIK, most "collectables" are "monetized" in some way. I believe it has to do with capitalism and the free market. Unfortunately, this tends to price many collectors like me out of the "market." That's too bad. Welcome to the "real world" where you and I have the option not to join or agree with.
@Insider2 said: @bronco2078 said: "Collect what you want to collect for the sheer joy of it. That's not what this is about."
I agree with the first part. But this is about collecting for the joy of it. You see, Many folks like me love modern bullion coins from all over the world in TPGS slabs with colorful "Early Release" special labels! I'm sorry to read that you wish to infringe on our joy!!
@bronco2078 continued: "This is about flipping and monetizing collectibles. As a collector thats not in my best interest to enable."
AFAIK, most "collectables" are "monetized" in some way. I believe it has to do with capitalism and the free market. Unfortunately, this tends to price many collectors like me out of the "market." That's too bad. Welcome to the "real world" where you and I have the option not to join or agree with.
Maybe we can partner up? I'll buy those early release MS70 bullion coins for $3 over spot , extricate the forgettable silver rounds to store safely in a tube, then sell you the flotsam that remains, bits of plastic and sparkly paper .
Many years ago, when I first started collecting, I fell in love with toned Morgans and Peace dollars. I wanted all my coins to look like that. My brother-in-law being a chemist and I experimented with a number of techniques. I produced an AT that looked like the Cert ending in 5501 by not flipping the coin over . Mainly though, I ruined a lot of older lower grade Morgans trying to get that look. If Those are AT coins, someone did a beautiful job and should be commended. NOT saying this is a good thing so don't everyone jump on my case its just that from first hand experience, I was not able to get anywhere near this level. Since toned ASE's are not bringing much more than Bright ASE's it seems logical that a COIN DOCTOR would cost Way more than the coin is worth to get it that way. Can't see the point, not going to be very profitable.
Incidentally Now that I am older, More experienced and hopefully a little smarter, I wish I could go back and undo a few of those coins because I have come to realize like most true collectors that a toned coin occurring naturally over a period of time is Mother natures way of producing some really incredible works of ORIGINAL Art that just can't be reproduced, and in my heart, I just can't even consider even blowing dust off my coins today. I want them to be as natural and pristine as possible.
Bob Sr CEO Fieldtechs
@Insider2 said: @bronco2078 said: "Collect what you want to collect for the sheer joy of it. That's not what this is about."
I agree with the first part. But this is about collecting for the joy of it. You see, Many folks like me love modern bullion coins from all over the world in TPGS slabs with colorful "Early Release" special labels! I'm sorry to read that you wish to infringe on our joy!!
@bronco2078 continued: "This is about flipping and monetizing collectibles. As a collector thats not in my best interest to enable."
AFAIK, most "collectables" are "monetized" in some way. I believe it has to do with capitalism and the free market. Unfortunately, this tends to price many collectors like me out of the "market." That's too bad. Welcome to the "real world" where you and I have the option not to join or agree with.
Maybe we can partner up? I'll buy those early release MS70 bullion coins for $3 over spot , extricate the forgettable silver rounds to store safely in a tube, then sell you the flotsam that remains, bits of plastic and sparkly paper .
Only if I can SHREAD all that "MONITIZED" paper crap with photos.
Thank you for the video I was wondering how you could manipulate coins that way. Now if I could just figure out how to use up my supply of Ammonia Nitrate?
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But, as a business, beholden to itself and its shareholders, it is the right thing to do for PCGS to continue to grade bullion, as long as there is a market for it.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
@bronco2078 said: "Collect what you want to collect for the sheer joy of it. That's not what this is about."
I agree with the first part. But this is about collecting for the joy of it. You see, Many folks like me love modern bullion coins from all over the world in TPGS slabs with colorful "Early Release" special labels! I'm sorry to read that you wish to infringe on our joy!!
@bronco2078 continued: "This is about flipping and monetizing collectibles. As a collector thats not in my best interest to enable."
AFAIK, most "collectables" are "monetized" in some way. I believe it has to do with capitalism and the free market. Unfortunately, this tends to price many collectors like me out of the "market." That's too bad. Welcome to the "real world" where you and I have the option not to join or agree with.
Assuming that PCGS considered these to be NT, is it clear how the toning should affect the grade?
Maybe we can partner up? I'll buy those early release MS70 bullion coins for $3 over spot , extricate the forgettable silver rounds to store safely in a tube, then sell you the flotsam that remains, bits of plastic and sparkly paper
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Many years ago, when I first started collecting, I fell in love with toned Morgans and Peace dollars. I wanted all my coins to look like that. My brother-in-law being a chemist and I experimented with a number of techniques. I produced an AT that looked like the Cert ending in 5501 by not flipping the coin over . Mainly though, I ruined a lot of older lower grade Morgans trying to get that look. If Those are AT coins, someone did a beautiful job and should be commended. NOT saying this is a good thing so don't everyone jump on my case its just that from first hand experience, I was not able to get anywhere near this level. Since toned ASE's are not bringing much more than Bright ASE's it seems logical that a COIN DOCTOR would cost Way more than the coin is worth to get it that way. Can't see the point, not going to be very profitable.
Incidentally Now that I am older, More experienced and hopefully a little smarter, I wish I could go back and undo a few of those coins because I have come to realize like most true collectors that a toned coin occurring naturally over a period of time is Mother natures way of producing some really incredible works of ORIGINAL Art that just can't be reproduced, and in my heart, I just can't even consider even blowing dust off my coins today. I want them to be as natural and pristine as possible.
Bob Sr CEO Fieldtechs
Only if I can SHREAD all that "MONITIZED" paper crap with photos.
Thank you for the video I was wondering how you could manipulate coins that way.
Now if I could just figure out how to use up my supply of Ammonia Nitrate? 