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2010 Business strike vs satin finish how were they released rolls or sets?

I have read the threads looked on the mints web site tested my googleyness and even did a barcode scan on a Mint set I have. The bar scan went on to say in the description for the mint set was business strike. Other avenues say uncirculated coin sets were satin. Are there business strikes in the uncirculated sets ?

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "Satin finish" is still a business strike as they are not "proof strikes" or even "specimen" strikes.

    http://mintnewsblog.com/end-of-satin-finish-officially/

  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All 2005-2010 U.S. Mint sets are 100% Satin Finish. The business strike coins for these years must be found in bags and rolls. But, I did hear that some Satin Finish coins did end up in bags and rolls purchased from the mint. High grade MS BS coins from these yrs come with a small premium and they should increase over time, but who knows...


    Later, Paul.
  • newcollectnewcollect Posts: 205 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:
    "Satin finish" is still a business strike as they are not "proof strikes" or even "specimen" strikes.

    http://mintnewsblog.com/end-of-satin-finish-officia

  • newcollectnewcollect Posts: 205 ✭✭✭

    Exactly but will PCGS grade the coins in the set as as satin or business ? The only satin ones i have seen are with the special satin label.

  • newcollectnewcollect Posts: 205 ✭✭✭

    ttt

  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,155 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 3, 2017 11:36AM

    The one major divergence between satin finish and business strikes is with the 2009 cents. All the bronze 2009 Philly and Denver cents are satin finish (and vice versa). Circulation strikes are all Zincolns. The bronze satins were made available only in that year's mint sets, with a mintage of around 750,000. Since bronze cents and Zincolns look similar to each other, the difference in finish is the main visible distinguishing characteristic between the two. Many collectors don't know (or don't care) about the difference, but numismatically it is as significant as the difference between 1864 copper-nickel and bronze cents.

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  • newcollectnewcollect Posts: 205 ✭✭✭

    Thanks OD, I checked that 2009 that is something I overlooked I seen the composition was different in the other years.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,685 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin will be judged satin or not at grading time.

    The is or isn't decision has generated some controversy as bank roll coins have come back as satin.

    The Mint sets are all satin for the years stated.

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  • IntueorIntueor Posts: 310 ✭✭✭✭

    Slightly off topic but.....
    There is a caveat to the availability of Business Strikes Roosevelt Dimes for 2005-2010. The dimes can only be acquired in circulation. Lincoln cent rolls are commonly saved, Jefferson bags were saved in 2005 (Westward Journey) and rolls of 2006-20XX because of the changes. The business strike quarters, halves, and dollars were also available in bags. This leaves the business strike dimes 2005-2010 as circulation only. As the result of a low mintage rumor, the 2009 and 2010 dime rolls were hoarded. Thus the 2005-2008 Roosevelt dimes in high-grade Full Band are very hard to find and a real challenge. Check out the PCGS price guide values. This “moon money” for a circulation strike dime is fascinating.

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  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,155 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Intueor said:
    Thus the 2005-2008 Roosevelt dimes in high-grade Full Band are very hard to find and a real challenge. Check out the PCGS price guide values. This “moon money” for a circulation strike dime is fascinating.

    The "moon money" is probably a function of registry set competition. The pop report shows only one 2005-D MS68 Full Band ($1900) and two 2008-P MS67 Full Band ($1500). I think it's likely that additional specimens will eventually achieve these lofty grades. Meanwhile, MS65FB's for those years are much more affordable and reasonably scarce.

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  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Overdate said:

    @Intueor said:
    Thus the 2005-2008 Roosevelt dimes in high-grade Full Band are very hard to find and a real challenge. Check out the PCGS price guide values. This “moon money” for a circulation strike dime is fascinating.

    The "moon money" is probably a function of registry set competition. The pop report shows only one 2005-D MS68 Full Band ($1900) and two 2008-P MS67 Full Band ($1500). I think it's likely that additional specimens will eventually achieve these lofty grades. Meanwhile, MS65FB's for those years are much more affordable and reasonably scarce.

    I once owned the 2005-D 68FB BS pop (1/0) and made the 2008-D 68FB BS pop (1/0) Roosies. They are truly spectacular dimes and worthy of the grade. I paid $1,000 for the '05-D back in 2006/7. Well worth the money and highly doubt another will be made.
    The rolls for 2005-2010 dimes are insane expensive on eBay. Had I known then, I would of hoarded them at the time. With prices going up, it might be worth while to start searching these rolls again!


    Later, Paul.
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,155 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Meanwhile the price guide shows the 2005-D SP68FB satin finish at $48, the 2008-P SP67FB satin finish at $8 (!), and the 2008-D SP68FB satin finish at $12.

    Any tips on how to remove a satin finish?

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is why I been trying to get box's of roll of none satin coin, I think they will be worth good money later.



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  • StoogeStooge Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Overdate said:
    Meanwhile the price guide shows the 2005-D SP68FB satin finish at $48, the 2008-P SP67FB satin finish at $8 (!), and the 2008-D SP68FB satin finish at $12.

    Any tips on how to remove a satin finish?

    Not possible at all to remove the finish as the dies were prepared for the satin finish. As far as grades are concerned, I wouldn't send one in unless it is absolutely flawless, otherwise its a lost cause.


    Later, Paul.
  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,155 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There appears to be a smaller number of graded dimes (all grades) during the satin finish years than in the years before and after. My take is that some collectors are substituting graded satin finish dimes for graded circulation-strike dimes in their collections. Collectors of raw dimes are likely doing something similar, as many collectors update their dime and other series sets from the annual mint sets rather than from circulation.

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