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    GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 16,867 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 18, 2017 7:50AM

    Wonder if it will fit...............

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,705 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I want one. :)

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    BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They'd double as great beverage coasters.

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    stevebensteveben Posts: 4,596 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i don't like it.

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    StorkStork Posts: 5,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Found these on their facebook comment page from customers:


    Plus one with a view how they'd look in a case:

    Looks like a traditional tray with the slabs, plus an added label.

    Gives good perspective on size of the holders, and how the coin looks inside.


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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I kind of want one. I wonder what they cost to submit a coin... my understanding of the language and cost sheet is a little lacking...

    Kind of sad that the only US coin is a proof 91-S Kennedy...

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RegistryCoin said:
    I see it’s a PR66, so I assume they use the 70 point scale.
    The more companies, especially international, that use the 70 point scale, the tougher it would to be to constitute a change to a 100 point scale?

    That's good.....but I hate the holder.

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    koynekwestkoynekwest Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When SEGS started in '98 they had a prototype slab that was absolutely massive-noticeably thicker than the one eventually produced and therefore impractical (it was very heavy.) I visited Larry at a show in Cincinnati where he showed it to me. Back in the early days I thought he was right on the money with his grading. Later I even had a few coins UPGRADE after they were cracked out and submitted to PCGS-one was a 1934 Doubled Die Obverse 25c that went from a 64 to a 66, resulting in a huge increase in value. I only had one or two go down in grade and those only went down a single point. He still has the best slab in the business.

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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,017 ✭✭✭✭✭

    After recently trying to put some "slab protector" sleeves over some PCGS slabs, I've come to hate the stacking tabs on them.
    So I like to see alternate slab designs.

    These octagon holders are interesting. They look somewhat thick. I generally prefer thinner holders, however, for compact storage.

    Overall, when it comes to the overall slab shape and layout, I still prefer the current ANACS.

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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 9,959 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those look dumb.

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    LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,296 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the look but in a dealers case, I like to see the grade w/o having to ask about every one.

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    JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 19, 2017 8:09PM

    @Lakesammman said:
    I like the look but in a dealers case, I like to see the grade w/o having to ask about every one.

    What if they were all sample slabs? :p

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    yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,600 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 19, 2017 8:36PM

    @Lakesammman said:
    I like the look but in a dealers case, I like to see the grade w/o having to ask about every one.

    I agree.
    Apparently the tray and separate labels solves this, although I can imagine the labels getting mixed up.

    It seems like there is lots of space available above and below the coin on the front of the slab where a second label could go.

    This could probably be done with a sticker or two, given that the edge label provides fairly tamper-proof reliability.
    Could be nicer if there was a more durable label that is easier to remove without leaving residue behind - this could be useful on conventional slabs as well. Maybe something like a stamp mount. (Probably people already use something like this). Rubber cement might work if it's not too reactive.

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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I must say, they really thought out how to display the edge.

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 19, 2017 9:14PM

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

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    Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looking at the Ebay listings, I will say that the prongs interfere with photographing of the smaller diameter coins much more than larger diameter coins. It is an interesting one size fits all approach though.

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,926 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 19, 2017 10:45PM

    I think the holder is neat but, looking at it in the dealer case, I wonder if the gaskets will be distracting.

    For the straight on view, I like the gaskets on the old rattler holders and the new ANACS holders.

    For edge view holders, I think the Yuan-Tai holders are neat, but it would be even better with translucent coin holders (vs. white).

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    bluelobsterbluelobster Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭

    Need to see it in person, but it looks good to me, simply because you really see more of the coin which is the whole point. Of course it's new, so the more crotchety among us won't like it because of that, nothing new there, haha

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    TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    hmmm...

    do they have a sample slab?

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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 33,926 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2020 5:15AM

    Old Thread Bump

    Here are some photos from GENI's Picuki page. The slabs look nice when presented together.

    https://www.picuki.com/profile/geni.expert



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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,949 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ugliest slab ever!

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    ms71ms71 Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems like it hasn't taken off to any great extent. I found a two year old thread about it on CoinTalk, it even has a posting by the GENI founder:

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/new-french-coin-slabs.297491/

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    oldabeintxoldabeintx Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As a collector, my preference would be a holder that 95% features the coin, 5% information. But secure. My guess is that the current slabs are designed by professional dealers, for professional dealers. That's okay, I get it, but surely some imagination from outside the ranks could come up with something that features the coin more prominently but is easy to "read", The 1913 nickel slab discussed elsewhere on this forum is an example of the coin getting lost in the holder, sacrificed to its "story". That of course is the prerogative of the owner and his preference and none of my business. My preference as a collector of less stellar coins is to have the focus more on the object inside the holder.

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    Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,678 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Has there ever been a clear glass holder? You'd think that before plastics someone used glass. Peace Roy

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    keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    apparently time hasn't been kind to this new mousetrap. what sense does it make to put the information around the holder where it can't be seen while looking at the contents(especially in a dealer case)?? sellers would have to make additional tags or else be constantly answering questions. what a waste of time.

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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,705 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2020 12:39PM

    In my humble opinion, the most current PCGS slab is the nicest to date of any company at any time.

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