Please Jon Gruden....come to Dallas and bring a DC with you!! PLEASE!

DIMEMAN · October 9, 2017 5:45PM

Really folks I don't think anything Football related has ever gone thru Garrett's mind. The fans in Pittsburgh complain about Tomlin. Garrett makes Tomlin look like a mastermind.

And please get rid of that DC. I don't know what he is coordinating......but it ain't Defense!!! What a bum!!

Let's do some house cleaning......PLEASE!! We finally have a really good QB and RB let's not waste them!!

Justacommeman · October 9, 2017 6:00PM

They couldn't win with a very good QB the last ten years either. Granted they didn't have a RB during the Romo era so he had to carry them. An aging Dez and Whitten is also a problem. They are both in quite possibly their last year. Especially Whitten.

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bronco2078 · October 9, 2017 6:26PM

He said he will come but only if a local restaurant names a sandwich after him.............

DIMEMAN · October 9, 2017 6:27PM

@bronco2078 said:
He said he will come but only if a local restaurant names a sandwich after him.............

Done!

DIMEMAN · October 9, 2017 6:35PM

@Justacommeman said:
They couldn't win with a very good QB the last ten years either. Granted they didn't have a RB during the Romo era so he had to carry them. An aging Dez and Whitten is also a problem. They are both in quite possibly their last year. Especially Whitten.

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Mark .....Please don't start on Romo. He didn't have the play making ability of Dak. Not even close. Dak will make you forget all about Tony. Look at the interception difference!!!! Dak has very few total and 2 of those were not his fault. When the QB hits the receiver in the hands and it goes up in the air for an INT......it's not on the QB.

Dez has 3-5 years left. Whitten is fine. He never had speed. But has always been an excellent possession receiver over the middle and the short slants. He's no Gronk, but who is?

bronco2078 · October 9, 2017 6:40PM

@DIMEMAN said:

@bronco2078 said:
He said he will come but only if a local restaurant names a sandwich after him.............

Done!

I lobbed that right over the plate and you whifffed it

Justacommeman · October 9, 2017 6:46PM

Romo has the 3rd or 4th highest QBR rating in the history of the NFL. That relies heavily on TD/INT ratio. He was not your problem. Cowboys expectations with the garbage they rolled out on the field in form of a defense and felons was the problem. The current Cowboys have lousy chemistry and Dez is a mere shell of his formal self. They cover him one on one now. He was great. He is now good. Whitten was great. He is ok now.

mark

DIMEMAN · October 9, 2017 6:55PM

@Justacommeman said:
Romo has the 3rd or 4th highest QBR rating in the history of the NFL. That relies heavily on TD/INT ratio. He was not your problem. Cowboys expectations with the garbage they rolled out on the field in form of a defense and felons was the problem. The current Cowboys have lousy chemistry and Dez is a mere shell of his formal self. Whitten is a liability now.

mark

Romo had big numbers, but always choked when it counted. I am not the only one who noticed that. Dak is better that Romo already. Did you notice Dak's QBR???

And I totally disagree with you on Whitten and Dez.

grote15 · October 9, 2017 7:05PM

Gruden is not going anywhere. He makes a ton of money and works one day a week in the booth for a few hours and does commercials on the side. Why in the world would he give up that cushy gig for the long hours and stress of being a head coach?

And even if he were going to come back, he certainly wouldn't want to work for an owner like Jerry Jones.

DIMEMAN · October 9, 2017 7:11PM

@Justacommeman said:
Romo has the 3rd or 4th highest QBR rating in the history of the NFL. That relies heavily on TD/INT ratio. He was not your problem. Cowboys expectations with the garbage they rolled out on the field in form of a defense and felons was the problem. The current Cowboys have lousy chemistry and Dez is a mere shell of his formal self. They cover him one on one now. He was great. He is now good. Whitten was great. He is ok now.

mark

Mark ..... here are some numbers for you:

Career QBR,,,,,,,Tony 97.1......Dak 101.6
INT%.....Tony 2.7.........Dak 1.3

bronco2078 · October 9, 2017 7:14PM

@DIMEMAN said:

@Justacommeman said:
Romo has the 3rd or 4th highest QBR rating in the history of the NFL. That relies heavily on TD/INT ratio. He was not your problem. Cowboys expectations with the garbage they rolled out on the field in form of a defense and felons was the problem. The current Cowboys have lousy chemistry and Dez is a mere shell of his formal self. They cover him one on one now. He was great. He is now good. Whitten was great. He is ok now.

mark

Mark ..... here are some numbers for you:

Career QBR,,,,,,,Tony 97.1......Dak 101.6
INT%.....Tony 2.7.........Dak 1.3

But Dak's career is only 1 year long

Justacommeman · October 9, 2017 7:17PM

Let's see what Dak's QBR is in 14 years! Dak is 0-1 in the playoffs and he was on a 13-3 team. Romo was never on a prohibitive favored team in the playoffs. He was 2-4 in playoffs. We would have been 3-3 if Dez would have hung onto the ball in the Green Bay game. Romo holds several Cowboys team records, including passing touchdowns, passing yards, most games with at least 300 passing yards, and games with three or more touchdown passes. He also held a higher passer rating in the fourth quarter than any other NFL quarterback from 2006 to 2013.

Your troubles were not Tony Romo.

mark

DIMEMAN · October 9, 2017 7:50PM

@Justacommeman said:
Let's see what Dak's QBR is in 14 years! Dak is 0-1 in the playoffs and he was on a 13-3 team. Romo was never on a prohibitive favored team in the playoffs. He was 2-4 in playoffs. We would have been 3-3 if Dez would have hung onto the ball in the Green Bay game. Romo holds several Cowboys team records, including passing touchdowns, passing yards, most games with at least 300 passing yards, and games with three or more touchdown passes. He also held a higher passer rating in the fourth quarter than any other NFL quarterback from 2006 to 2013.

Your troubles were not Tony Romo.

mark

Romo was on a 13-3 team and lost to the Giants in the playoffs. Most if not all of the records Romo past in Dallas were Troy's. Dallas was not a passing team then. I would much much much much much much rather have Troy than Tony the choker.

Sorry Mark you will NEVER sell me on Romo. Troy in his prime would have won several SB's with Dez, Whitten and that running back we had a few years ago.

Sorry but Tony is a choking loser and I'm glad he is in the booth where he can't cost us any more games!

Coinstartled · October 9, 2017 8:00PM

RB should be in the Big House.

Justacommeman · October 9, 2017 8:05PM

@DIMEMAN said:

@Justacommeman said:
Let's see what Dak's QBR is in 14 years! Dak is 0-1 in the playoffs and he was on a 13-3 team. Romo was never on a prohibitive favored team in the playoffs. He was 2-4 in playoffs. We would have been 3-3 if Dez would have hung onto the ball in the Green Bay game. Romo holds several Cowboys team records, including passing touchdowns, passing yards, most games with at least 300 passing yards, and games with three or more touchdown passes. He also held a higher passer rating in the fourth quarter than any other NFL quarterback from 2006 to 2013.

Your troubles were not Tony Romo.

mark

Romo was on a 13-3 team and lost to the Giants in the playoffs. Most if not all of the records Romo past in Dallas were Troy's. Dallas was not a passing team then. I would much much much much much much rather have Troy than Tony the choker.

Sorry Mark you will NEVER sell me on Romo. Troy in his prime would have won several SB's with Dez, Whitten and that running back we had a few years ago.

Sorry but Tony is a choking loser and I'm glad he is in the booth where he can't cost us any more games!

And Romo might have won 4 Super Bowls during the Aikman years. Most good QB's would have. They were loaded. I doubt Aikman would have won anything with during the Romo years. We will need know.

mark

grote15 · October 9, 2017 8:10PM

Aikman would not have any Super Bowls with the teams Romo played on.

Dez Bryant is overrated imo and nowhere near as good as Irvin was.

Emmitt Smith was arguably one of the greatest backs of all time. Romo had DeMarco Murray for one season.

Aikman was 24-28 over his last 4 seasons.

erikthredd · October 10, 2017 8:50AM

After Gruden coached a team owned by Al Davis i doubt he'd want to go into another puppet head coaching position with Jerry Jones standing over his shoulder and making all of the decisions. I think Gruden would be a great influence on Dak & the Cowboys offense though but i just don't see that as the best spot for him if he decides to take another coaching position.

DIMEMAN · October 10, 2017 9:14AM

@erikthredd said:
After Gruden coached a team owned by Al Davis i doubt he'd want to go into another puppet head coaching position with Jerry Jones standing over his shoulder and making all of the decisions. I think Gruden would be a great influence on Dak & the Cowboys offense though but i just don't see that as the best spot for him if he decides to take another coaching position.

I don't think it will ever happen either. Jerry seems to like Garrett......probably because he is a YES boy! He certainly doesn't do any coaching.

perkdog · October 10, 2017 12:10PM

Dallas got beat by Aaron Rodgers in a tough game, losing to him and the Pack is not reason enough to panic and want to rip the entire team apart. They lost a tough game, the fact that they lost in the last minute of the game to Aaron Rodgers should tell you that they played a great game and have a shot at beating the best team in the NFC. That's slot more than most teams can say, thank your lucky stars your not a Giants fan lol

DIMEMAN · October 10, 2017 6:48PM

@perkdog said:
Dallas got beat by Aaron Rodgers in a tough game, losing to him and the Pack is not reason enough to panic and want to rip the entire team apart. They lost a tough game, the fact that they lost in the last minute of the game to Aaron Rodgers should tell you that they played a great game and have a shot at beating the best team in the NFC. That's slot more than most teams can say, thank your lucky stars your not a Giants fan lol

The thing is that a coach that knew something could have won that game by telling the QB not to score a TD until the clock was way down. The defense hadn't stopped anything the whole half and I knew the game was over giving the ball back to Rodgers with 1:13 left.

And it's not just this game...I have NEVER liked Garrett....he is a spectator!

Darin · October 10, 2017 6:56PM

Its hard enough to score a TD, you can't really tell your team to try not to score
until there's 10 seconds or so left on the clock. You have to put your trust in the defense
to make a stop, that's all there is to it.
What if the QB did drop at the 1 yard line. And then they fumbled the exchange on the next play?
Can you imagine how many fans would be calling for the coach to be fired.
The bottom line is, you have to trust your players to make plays, you have to take a TD when you can get it.

bronco2078 · October 10, 2017 7:11PM

@Darin said:
Its hard enough to score a TD, you can't really tell your team to try not to score
until there's 10 seconds or so left on the clock. You have to put your trust in the defense
to make a stop, that's all there is to it.
What if the QB did drop at the 1 yard line. And then they fumbled the exchange on the next play?
Can you imagine how many fans would be calling for the coach to be fired.
The bottom line is, you have to trust your players to make plays, you have to take a TD when you can get it.

The Giants did this a few years ago and they got shredded. Eli told someone to fall down at the 1 yard line

DIMEMAN · October 10, 2017 7:16PM

You guys can dream on about switching Aikman and Romo all you want.

Aikman was 10 times the QB that Romo was.

I don't EVER remember Aikman costing the Cowboys a game. And on the other hand I have many memories of Romo the choker costing us many games. He was a loser and Aikman was a winner.

DIMEMAN · October 10, 2017 7:22PM

@bronco2078 said:

@Darin said:
Its hard enough to score a TD, you can't really tell your team to try not to score
until there's 10 seconds or so left on the clock. You have to put your trust in the defense
to make a stop, that's all there is to it.
What if the QB did drop at the 1 yard line. And then they fumbled the exchange on the next play?
Can you imagine how many fans would be calling for the coach to be fired.
The bottom line is, you have to trust your players to make plays, you have to take a TD when you can get it.

The Giants did this a few years ago and they got shredded. Eli told someone to fall down at the 1 yard line

Two things to remember here:

1) Yes, you should be able to trust the D, but NOT this group this half!

2) How many times has Zeke been stopped on 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 all year....zero, nada, zilch.

It was the thing to do at this point in time.

grote15 · October 10, 2017 8:04PM

@DIMEMAN said:

@bronco2078 said:

@Darin said:
Its hard enough to score a TD, you can't really tell your team to try not to score
until there's 10 seconds or so left on the clock. You have to put your trust in the defense
to make a stop, that's all there is to it.
What if the QB did drop at the 1 yard line. And then they fumbled the exchange on the next play?
Can you imagine how many fans would be calling for the coach to be fired.
The bottom line is, you have to trust your players to make plays, you have to take a TD when you can get it.

The Giants did this a few years ago and they got shredded. Eli told someone to fall down at the 1 yard line

Two things to remember here:

1) Yes, you should be able to trust the D, but NOT this group this half!

2) How many times has Zeke been stopped on 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 all year....zero, nada, zilch.

It was the thing to do at this point in time.

How many times has Zeke been given the ball from the 1 or 2 yard line with the game on the line and seconds remaining when the D is teed up to make a stop? Zero, nada, zilch.

He was stopped on 4th and 1 a few minutes before but had the good fortune of being able to stick his arm out to pick up the first down. It's certainly not like it was easy peasy.

DIMEMAN · October 10, 2017 8:12PM

@grote15 said:

@DIMEMAN said:

@bronco2078 said:

@Darin said:
Its hard enough to score a TD, you can't really tell your team to try not to score
until there's 10 seconds or so left on the clock. You have to put your trust in the defense
to make a stop, that's all there is to it.
What if the QB did drop at the 1 yard line. And then they fumbled the exchange on the next play?
Can you imagine how many fans would be calling for the coach to be fired.
The bottom line is, you have to trust your players to make plays, you have to take a TD when you can get it.

The Giants did this a few years ago and they got shredded. Eli told someone to fall down at the 1 yard line

Two things to remember here:

1) Yes, you should be able to trust the D, but NOT this group this half!

2) How many times has Zeke been stopped on 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 all year....zero, nada, zilch.

It was the thing to do at this point in time.

How many times has Zeke been given the ball from the 1 or 2 yard line with the game on the line and seconds remaining when the D is teed up to make a stop? Zero, nada, zilch.

He was stopped on 4th and 1 a few minutes before but had the good fortune of being able to stick his arm out to pick up the first down. It's certainly not like it was easy peasy.

In that game they way things were going who would you put your money on:

Zeke scoring OR the D stopping Rodgers??? I would take Zeke or even run the play that Prescott made the TD on. That play would work every time....because you have to go after Zeke.

grote15 · October 10, 2017 8:33PM

You can't not score a TD just because you have no faith in your defense. What kind of message does that send to your team? If they don't have any confidence in them as a unit, you may as well just throw in the towel.

You have a chance to score the go ahead TD with a minute and change left, you score the TD. I don't think there's a coiach in the league that would think otherwise.

DIMEMAN · October 10, 2017 8:45PM

@grote15 said:
You can't not score a TD just because you have no faith in your defense. What kind of message does that send to your team? If they don't have any confidence in them as a unit, you may as well just throw in the towel.

You have a chance to score the go ahead TD with a minute and change left, you score the TD. I don't think there's a coiach in the league that would think otherwise.

I respectfully disagree. My way we have a chance to win. They way it went we had no chance. You can't give the ball back to Rodgers when the D is wearing dresses and high heels!

grote15 · October 10, 2017 8:48PM

Hindsight is always 20/20. Zeke gets stuffed from the 1 as time expires and you come on here ranting about how they blew the game. There's no winning with you, lol..

DIMEMAN · October 10, 2017 8:57PM

@grote15 said:
Hindsight is always 20/20. Zeke gets stuffed from the 1 as time expires and you come on here ranting about how they blew the game. There's no winning with you, lol..

ARGH! You are impossible. It wasn't hindsight.......as soon as Prescott scores I told my wife he should have gone down on the 1....she said "why"......I said "watch"! And exactly what I knew would happen......HAPPENED!!!

grote15 · October 10, 2017 9:20PM

@DIMEMAN said:

@grote15 said:
Hindsight is always 20/20. Zeke gets stuffed from the 1 as time expires and you come on here ranting about how they blew the game. There's no winning with you, lol..

ARGH! You are impossible. It wasn't hindsight.......as soon as Prescott scores I told my wife he should have gone down on the 1....she said "why"......I said "watch"! And exactly what I knew would happen......HAPPENED!!!

Even a broken clock is right twice a day...that doesn't mean you should use it to tell time.

BTW, you should have posted that before it happened. Anybody can do so that after the fact to appear prescient.

Justacommeman · October 11, 2017 1:48AM

@DIMEMAN said:

@bronco2078 said:

@Darin said:
Its hard enough to score a TD, you can't really tell your team to try not to score
until there's 10 seconds or so left on the clock. You have to put your trust in the defense
to make a stop, that's all there is to it.
What if the QB did drop at the 1 yard line. And then they fumbled the exchange on the next play?
Can you imagine how many fans would be calling for the coach to be fired.
The bottom line is, you have to trust your players to make plays, you have to take a TD when you can get it.

The Giants did this a few years ago and they got shredded. Eli told someone to fall down at the 1 yard line

Two things to remember here:

1) Yes, you should be able to trust the D, but NOT this group this half!

2) How many times has Zeke been stopped on 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 all year....zero, nada, zilch.

It was the thing to do at this point in time.

Jon you are get extra silly in Cowboy threads. Forgetting about a botched snap in a confined area on the field what about a false start penalty? Then what? This happens all the time.

On one goal line play I would give any team including the Cowboys a 50/50 change of scoring. It has nothing to do with the RB in that situation and everything to do with push and leverage of the big uglies

And in case you haven't noticed Elliott hasn't run the ball all that well this year and hasn't been in the end zone all that often

mark

lightningboy · October 11, 2017 4:07PM

.as soon as Prescott scores I told my wife he should have gone down on the 1....she said "why"......I said "watch"! And exactly what I knew would happen......HAPPENED!!!

So, I take it that Prescott lost the game for them?? Let's be fair. Any loss gets pinned on the QB, right?

lightningboy · October 11, 2017 4:16PM

Dimeman, you do bring up some good points in many of your posts. The problem is they tend to get muddied with your tantrum throwing and prejudice. Do we know why you like Aikman more than Romo? Of course, the Boys experienced great success while Aikman was the QB. But how did you measure Aikman being 10 times better than Romo? Did he win 10 times more games? Did he throw 10 times the td's or 1/10 the interceptions? You refuse to look at the fact that Aikman enjoyed a 7 year stretch of having one of the top 2 RB's, Top 5 WR's, a defense that consistently ranked in the top 3 in most categories, and arguably one of the greatest O lines in history, on his side. And by your own admission, Aikman didn't have anyone sabotaging him on the sideline like Garrett.

Brick · October 11, 2017 4:44PM

This is precisely why Romo would have been a better choice at QB. There is no way he would have scored on that play and the clock would have continued to run.

DIMEMAN · October 11, 2017 7:08PM

@lightningboy said:
Dimeman, you do bring up some good points in many of your posts. The problem is they tend to get muddied with your tantrum throwing and prejudice. Do we know why you like Aikman more than Romo? Of course, the Boys experienced great success while Aikman was the QB. But how did you measure Aikman being 10 times better than Romo? Did he win 10 times more games? Did he throw 10 times the td's or 1/10 the interceptions? You refuse to look at the fact that Aikman enjoyed a 7 year stretch of having one of the top 2 RB's, Top 5 WR's, a defense that consistently ranked in the top 3 in most categories, and arguably one of the greatest O lines in history, on his side. And by your own admission, Aikman didn't have anyone sabotaging him on the sideline like Garrett.

I like Aikman over Romo because he did his job and didn't blow games.

grote15 · October 22, 2017 2:31PM

Too bad DM gave up on the Cowboys...

DIMEMAN · October 22, 2017 3:26PM

@grote15 said:
Too bad DM gave up on the Cowboys...

Nice try.......but let's put things in perspective ......... it was the winless 49'ers.

grote15 · October 22, 2017 3:32PM

@DIMEMAN said:

@grote15 said:
Too bad DM gave up on the Cowboys...

Nice try.......but let's put things in perspective ......... it was the winless 49'ers.

A win is a win..and this one was a dominant one.

You remind me of that 49ers fan, WTCG (sp?), who was always complaining about his team with every situation..

DIMEMAN · October 22, 2017 3:49PM

@grote15 said:

@DIMEMAN said:

@grote15 said:
Too bad DM gave up on the Cowboys...

Nice try.......but let's put things in perspective ......... it was the winless 49'ers.

A win is a win..and this one was a dominant one.

You remind me of that 49ers fan, WTCG (sp?), who was always complaining about his team with every situation..

I'm not complaining.....just a fact.

Darin · October 22, 2017 4:24PM

@grote15 said:
Too bad DM gave up on the Cowboys...

I wonder who he roots for now. Once you give up on your team during the season
there's no going back. You're branded as a traitor.
I just hope Roger Staubach never hears about dimemans' 'quit at the first sign of adversity' attitude.

DIMEMAN · October 22, 2017 4:40PM

@Darin said:

@grote15 said:
Too bad DM gave up on the Cowboys...

I wonder who he roots for now. Once you give up on your team during the season
there's no going back. You're branded as a traitor.
I just hope Roger Staubach never hears about dimemans' 'quit at the first sign of adversity' attitude.

Where did I ever say I quit the Cowboys???

grote15 · October 22, 2017 4:56PM

@DIMEMAN said:

@Darin said:

@grote15 said:
Too bad DM gave up on the Cowboys...

I wonder who he roots for now. Once you give up on your team during the season
there's no going back. You're branded as a traitor.
I just hope Roger Staubach never hears about dimemans' 'quit at the first sign of adversity' attitude.

Where did I ever say I quit the Cowboys???

Given up on the Cowboys may be a more accurate statement.

DIMEMAN · October 22, 2017 5:13PM

@grote15 said:

@DIMEMAN said:

@Darin said:

@grote15 said:
Too bad DM gave up on the Cowboys...

I wonder who he roots for now. Once you give up on your team during the season
there's no going back. You're branded as a traitor.
I just hope Roger Staubach never hears about dimemans' 'quit at the first sign of adversity' attitude.

Where did I ever say I quit the Cowboys???

Given up on the Cowboys may be a more accurate statement.

If we lose Zeke for 6 games any time during the year....it would likely prevent us from doing much this year. Especially considering how well both the Eagles and Redskins are doing this year and we still have 2 games with both.

Darin · October 22, 2017 6:27PM

This loss to the Packers falls squarely on Garret "The Stupid"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When your defense is playing like girls you don't want to score with 1:13 and give the ball to Rodgers.
Prescott should have gone down at the 1 inch line for a 1st down. Run the clock down and run Zeke in for the win with seconds to go.

I'm done and just don't care anymore!!!!

Above is dimeman post in another thread.

I guess not caring isn't officially quitting on the Cowboys, so I guess you're right.
But I'm guessing you care a lot more after today than you did after the Packer loss.LOL.

Justacommeman · October 23, 2017 2:48PM

Father like son

Miami Hurricanes tight end Michael Irvin Jr. has been suspended indefinitely, coach Mark Richt said on a media teleconference Sunday night.

Irvin, the son of former Hurricanes star receiver and Pro Football Hall of Famer Michael Irvin, "just hasn't done what's he's supposed to do off the field and until he does, we won't let him play," Richt said.

At least Richt had the nads to suspend him. In Dallas they name a Champagne room after you.

mark

grote15 · October 23, 2017 2:54PM

Is Irvin Jr anywhere nearly as talented as his pop?

Easier to suspend a player when benching him doesn't mean you may not win a championship.

Justacommeman · October 23, 2017 2:57PM

@grote15 You are ruining my moment

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DIMEMAN · October 23, 2017 5:23PM

@Justacommeman said:
Father like son

Miami Hurricanes tight end Michael Irvin Jr. has been suspended indefinitely, coach Mark Richt said on a media teleconference Sunday night.

Irvin, the son of former Hurricanes star receiver and Pro Football Hall of Famer Michael Irvin, "just hasn't done what's he's supposed to do off the field and until he does, we won't let him play," Richt said.

At least Richt had the nads to suspend him. In Dallas they name a Champaign Room after you.

mark

Was this for my benefit? If so it was wasted.

Justacommeman · October 23, 2017 5:37PM

Just reporting the news Jon

mark

Please Jon Gruden....come to Dallas and bring a DC with you!! PLEASE!

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