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  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ironmanfan said:
    This is my favorite Ripken rookie:

    image

    IMF

    Great piece! Does it have a date on it?

  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,484 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 7, 2022 6:39AM

    @1948_Swell_Robinson said:

    @Ironmanfan said:
    This is my favorite Ripken rookie:

    image

    IMF

    Great piece! Does it have a date on it?

    no, actually most likely signed in 1981(or perhaps early '82) as one of these signatures was used on his 1982TT card

    IMF

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  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭

    Awesome piece!!!

    Let's go O's

    Fred

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    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:
    If you go by my original post, the fleer card should be at least as expensive if not more so. Also,The Traded card came out last of the rookie ripkens produced.

    traded 338 psa 10's
    topps 467 psa 10's
    fleer 232 psa 10's
    donruss 529 psa 10's

    Fleer looks like the best based on population. I think eventually, as the pop report grows, the fleer card will be the one to have.

    Post above is from 2018. Now current

    traded 402 psa 10's

    topps 542 psa 10's
    fleer 305 psa 10's
    donruss 669 psa 10's

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  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,484 ✭✭✭✭

    @UlyssesExtravaganza said:

    @1948_Swell_Robinson said:

    @Ironmanfan said:
    This is my favorite Ripken rookie:

    image

    IMF

    Great piece! Does it have a date on it?

    Very cool piece. Just seeing this from February but since the thread was revived.
    Think this has to be no later than 82 or 83 as a compare. Funny cause the sig looks a little different. But I think that is just the difference between how it looks when Topps asks you for 3 that you might get on your card and what it looks like when you are signing for free at Wheaton Plaza trying to get to everybody in line an auto quickly.

    And can not express more emphatically, Lets go O's!!!!!!!

    The signatures on the document weren't special ones just for Topps use, those simply were his minor league/pre rookie signatures. His autographed morphed somewhat during the the '82 season & changed once again in '83 (which is the version you have on that postcard).

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  • ndleondleo Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:

    @olb31 said:
    If you go by my original post, the fleer card should be at least as expensive if not more so. Also,The Traded card came out last of the rookie ripkens produced.

    traded 338 psa 10's
    topps 467 psa 10's
    fleer 232 psa 10's
    donruss 529 psa 10's

    Fleer looks like the best based on population. I think eventually, as the pop report grows, the fleer card will be the one to have.

    Post above is from 2018. Now current

    traded 402 psa 10's

    topps 542 psa 10's
    fleer 305 psa 10's
    donruss 669 psa 10's

    It looks like the Fleer sells for about half of the Traded in 2022. Did the gap between the two close, at least % wise?

    Mike
  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    bringing up a six year old post of cal. on february 17, 2024, the fleer cal ripken has supplanted the 1982 topps #21 as his second most valuable card, by quite a bit. the topps card looks to be bringing in around $1,800, the fleer looks to be north of $2,500 and maybe more. there are currently 0 fleer psa 10's for sell on ebay.

    look for the fleer card to keep catching up with the topps traded one. might not ever pass it, but....

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  • FirstBeardFirstBeard Posts: 472 ✭✭✭

    Go O's!!! This is the year.

  • brad31brad31 Posts: 2,822 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome Topps and Ripken document.

  • DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Personally I wouldn’t want the traded one. The same company issued an earlier card of him, so I don’t consider the second card a RC. I know I’m probably in the minority.

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,311 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like the traded Topps over his triple player rookie card. Really like the design on the traded.

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  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PSA 10 number on Feb 17, 2024

    TT = 409
    Fleer = 310
    Topps = 545
    Donruss = 709

    Here is story for some of you new peeps. Twice in my PSA lifetime i have seen a huge increase in 2 phenomenal rookie cards. TT Cal Ripken and 1990 Srore Supplemental Emmitt Smith. I don't remember the exact numbers, but at one grading one person got over 50 PSA 10's on both. Word has it, it was the same person (company).

    I let you fill in the blank.

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  • NGS428NGS428 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DBesse27 said:
    Personally I wouldn’t want the traded one. The same company issued an earlier card of him, so I don’t consider the second card a RC. I know I’m probably in the minority.

    I am with you.

    And I am also one of those guys that considers a traded card (if it appears before a base card) to be a rookie too.

  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’ve been saying the Ripken is going to bounce like the Henderson at some point. Only thing keeping it back is that there are more different kinds of them.

  • DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NGS428 said:

    @DBesse27 said:
    Personally I wouldn’t want the traded one. The same company issued an earlier card of him, so I don’t consider the second card a RC. I know I’m probably in the minority.

    I am with you.

    And I am also one of those guys that considers a traded card (if it appears before a base card) to be a rookie too.

    I agree. Whichever came first. How can the 84 Topps strawberry be his RC when he’s in 83 traded set?

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  • NGS428NGS428 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 18, 2024 11:50AM

    @DBesse27 said:

    @NGS428 said:

    @DBesse27 said:
    Personally I wouldn’t want the traded one. The same company issued an earlier card of him, so I don’t consider the second card a RC. I know I’m probably in the minority.

    I am with you.

    And I am also one of those guys that considers a traded card (if it appears before a base card) to be a rookie too.

    I agree. Whichever came first. How can the 84 Topps strawberry be his RC when he’s in 83 traded set?

    Thank you! Thank you! Yes!

    Because apparently it is still 1985 and I am having trouble finding that 84FU for Clemens and Puckett, so I will pretend like they don’t exist and stick with the 85’s. 🤣

  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Regarding Strawberry, Back in the day, even though the Traded card came out
    first, the Rookie card was 84 Topps and Donruss. They are wax pack cards. Not
    factory made sets. This was the prevailing train of thought then.

  • DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tibor said:
    Regarding Strawberry, Back in the day, even though the Traded card came out
    first, the Rookie card was 84 Topps and Donruss. They are wax pack cards. Not
    factory made sets. This was the prevailing train of thought then.

    I know, but I’ve never ascribed to that line of thinking.

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  • TiborTibor Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DBesse27 said:

    @Tibor said:
    Regarding Strawberry, Back in the day, even though the Traded card came out
    first, the Rookie card was 84 Topps and Donruss. They are wax pack cards. Not
    factory made sets. This was the prevailing train of thought then.

    I know, but I’ve never ascribed to that line of thinking.

    Forty years ago you would have been in the minority.
    Opinions change. We weren't as forgiving about pre made
    sets by Topps, Fleer, et al, as they are today.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:
    PSA 10 number on Feb 17, 2024

    TT = 409
    Fleer = 310
    Topps = 545
    Donruss = 709

    Here is story for some of you new peeps. Twice in my PSA lifetime i have seen a huge increase in 2 phenomenal rookie cards. TT Cal Ripken and 1990 Srore Supplemental Emmitt Smith. I don't remember the exact numbers, but at one grading one person got over 50 PSA 10's on both. Word has it, it was the same person (company).

    I let you fill in the blank.

    that would be 4sc right? i knew about the ripken, not the smith

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,345 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i well remember the whole xrc debate. i always considered the xrc the real rookie. even back then.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tibor said:

    @DBesse27 said:

    @Tibor said:
    Regarding Strawberry, Back in the day, even though the Traded card came out
    first, the Rookie card was 84 Topps and Donruss. They are wax pack cards. Not
    factory made sets. This was the prevailing train of thought then.

    I know, but I’ve never ascribed to that line of thinking.

    Forty years ago you would have been in the minority.
    Opinions change. We weren't as forgiving about pre made
    sets by Topps, Fleer, et al, as they are today.

    I might still be in the minority. I said that, and I’m ok with it.

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  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just sent in a 1986 tiffany ripken to sgc, perfect centering, hoping for a 9.5.

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  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the "sex" appeal of card really has nothing to do with anything. i don't particular find most topps sets to be very "pretty". from 1976 - 1982, blah. 1983 was great. 1984 - 1989 sad. 1 "pretty" set in 15 years,

    1984 donruss mattingly
    1987 opc bonds
    1989 opc johnson
    1985 leaf puckett, leaf clemens
    1986 donruss canseco
    1986 leaf mcgriff
    1989 ud griffey jr

    all of these cards are much more collected than there topps counterparts.

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  • CardGeekCardGeek Posts: 486 ✭✭✭
    edited February 22, 2024 7:58PM

    The appeal of Topps is that it has been doing the same thing since 1952. I might buy a box of Topps. I'm probably never buying a box of anything that isn't Topps ever again.

    All of that OPC stuff is Topps. If it were OPC and didn't look exactly like the Topps set nobody would care. Note, nobody cares about OPC after the frames become different than the Topps frame.

    Also, It's only been the past few years that the price has come up on any of that Canadian stuff.

    I don't know why people like that Mattingly. When that set came out it was considered rare. Now it doesn't look so rare. It is a good looking set though. 1982 Fleer is not a good looking set.

    The 84 Fleer Puckett and Clemens trump the 85 Topps stuff because they're earlier. Same thing with the Canseco and the McGriff.

    Griffey didn't have a Topps card until his traded card. When that Upper Deck set hit it was a technological leap. There weren't cards like that before the Upper Deck set came out. That card only has value because that set was hyped since day 1. Griffey has tons of cards that predate the Upper Deck card. The upper deck card has holograms! and photo quality printing on both sides! OMG

  • DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:
    the "sex" appeal of card really has nothing to do with anything. i don't particular find most topps sets to be very "pretty". from 1976 - 1982, blah. 1983 was great. 1984 - 1989 sad. 1 "pretty" set in 15 years,

    1984 donruss mattingly
    1987 opc bonds
    1989 opc johnson
    1985 leaf puckett, leaf clemens
    1986 donruss canseco
    1986 leaf mcgriff
    1989 ud griffey jr

    all of these cards are much more collected than there topps counterparts.

    Depends what you mean by “more collected.” If you’re talking about widespread demand, you’re wrong on at least half of those. Definitely right about mattingly, canseco and Griffey.

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  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1987 OPC Bonds psa 10 just sold for over $10,000 the other day. Sounds in demand to me. 1986 leaf mcgriff psa 10 is over $1,000. Both 1985 leaf's in 10 are well over $1,000 a piece. prolly close to $2,000.

    1989 Topps, donruss and regular fleer johnson all $100 or lower. 1989 opc last sell was $1,200.

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  • DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 24, 2024 2:44PM

    .

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  • CardGeekCardGeek Posts: 486 ✭✭✭
    edited February 24, 2024 12:49PM

    a 65 Shelby mustang once sold for 3.5 million dollars. Ford sold 559,451 65 mustangs. which do you think is more collected?

    Also, did that really happen? I have no idea. I read it on the internet. Just because 1 dude thought that car was worth 3.5 million dollars that day doesn't mean that they're all worth that. It just means one guy thought it was that day. Once he got it home and his wife saw it he may have had a total breakdown and lots of buyers remorse. The number 2 bidder didn't have to pay anything. Who knows what the truth is behind that.

    Are you paying 10 grand for that card?

    There are only 39 1987 psa 10 opc bonds. Not too many people are collecting those.

    Interestingly, 1964.5 was the first year of the Ford Mustang.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    is any sell on ebay real? is that where were going? psa lists it $19,500. maybe no one knows the value or demand.

    maybe mickey mantle cards aren't really in demand. just a figment of everyones imagination, right?

    if a 1987 baseball card is selling for over $5,000. it's in demand.

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  • CardGeekCardGeek Posts: 486 ✭✭✭
    edited February 24, 2024 10:56PM

    I can get a really nice one for 20-40 bucks on eBay.

    If PSA has it valued at 19,500 why did it sell for 10k?

    There's also the other side of that coin. Maybe it sold for 10k because PSA says 19500.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No matter how much the 1987 OPC bonds sells for or is worth, etc. it's defintitely in demand and collected as much as possible.

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  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I published this post in 2017. Now the Fleer card has surpassed the Topps card by about $750 give or take. As it should. But looking the sells prices of the 9's on the fleer, they are currently selling for less than $60. So a 10 just sold for around $3350 according to 130point and the 9's go for $60. That has to be the biggest difference between a 9 and a 10.

    For people who can't afford the $3,000 price take. The SGC 9.5 Fleer version sells for less than $250. I picked one up. I think there are only about 15. This would be the way to go in the future. I believe the 9.5 will grow pretty fast especially as fast as the 10's are selling for.

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  • Yankees70Yankees70 Posts: 482 ✭✭✭

    A buyer could purchase 56 PSA 9's for the price of one PSA 10.

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