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orioles93orioles93 Posts: 3,474 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Just curious on everyone's thoughts on Max Scherzer and future hall of fame chances. He is 33 years old, 136-74 record and a 3.30 career era. 5 all star appearances, 2 Cy Young awards (5th 2 other years), 2 20 win seasons, led the league in wins 3 times, great strikeout numbers 9 straight seasons. He is also most likely on his way to a 3rd Cy Young award with Kershaw's injury. With his age he doesn't have a shot at 300 wins or any milestones like that, but I would think his overall stats and dominance could put him in if he has a few more dominant years after this one. Also just always loved watching his pitch with his intensity. Your thoughts?

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  • dbtunrdbtunr Posts: 614 ✭✭✭

    unless he gets to 200 wins at least, I see no chance.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 30,656 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sure put him in, the HOF is a watered down mess anyways

  • Skin2Skin2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭

    If he has a few more seasons like this year, then maybe HOFer.

    As of now he sits at 1,800 innings and an ERA+ of 126

    I think the 'benchmark' right now would be someone like Curt Schilling who has 3,200 innings an an ERA+ of 126...plus Schilling has a lot of hardware and fame to his name.

    Schilling will eventually get in.

    For comparison, Kershaw has 1,900 innings and an ERA+ of 162.

    So the jury is still out on Scherzer. He will need a few more seasons like he is having this year, and then a few more decent seasons on top of that.

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Scherzer, as of this moment, actually sits at a 127.

    For some perspective, among guys with 200+ career starts in the live ball era, an ERA+ of 127 puts you in a tie for 16th all-time.

    Clayton Kershaw, with his 162 ERA+, is #1.

    If we go back to 1901, you need a 131 ERA+ to get into the top 20 but...Clayton Kershaw is still #1.

    That's a long, roundabout way of saying that Scherzer is putting up all-time great #s with his ERA+ of 127.

  • DarinDarin Posts: 7,087 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Zack Grienke, like Scherzer, should be a viable candidate if he has a few more good seasons

  • SirLurksALotSirLurksALot Posts: 119 ✭✭

    @dbtunr said:
    unless he gets to 200 wins at least, I see no chance.

    Using wins as a benchmark for a pitcher is a horrible idea with the managers consistently keeping them on Little League pitch counts in our current era of the game

  • WingsruleWingsrule Posts: 3,011 ✭✭✭✭

    If I get a vote, yes. Hated to see him leave Detroit.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:
    Zack Grienke, like Scherzer, should be a viable candidate if he has a few more good seasons

    Agree

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