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Bust Quarter G-T-C : NGC -> PCGS - GRADES POSTED

1TwoBits1TwoBits Posts: 465 ✭✭✭✭
edited July 5, 2017 10:56PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Guess-The-Crossover from NGC to PCGS.
Without leaving the page, can you guess what the NGC grade was on these two bust quarters, and how PCGS crossed them?

1TwoBits

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Searching for bust quarters.....counterstamps, errors, and AU-MS varieties, please let me know if you can help.

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  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    63 goes to 62
    61 goes to 58

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58/55
    58/58

  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62/58
    58/58

    Easton Collection
  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,552 ✭✭✭✭✭

    BTW - nice coins

    Easton Collection
  • amwldcoinamwldcoin Posts: 11,269 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 4, 2017 5:24AM

    55/53
    58/55

  • shishshish Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62/61
    61/58

    Very Nice!

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  • FranklinHalfAddictFranklinHalfAddict Posts: 688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58/63
    55/58

  • USMarine6USMarine6 Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very tough.
    62 to 63
    55 to 58

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with shish:
    62/61
    61/58

    I will add that regardless if the grades dropped, I'm sure you did not lose a penny of the value of those beautiful coins!

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  • wizzy1wizzy1 Posts: 18 ✭✭

    63-62
    62-58

    https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/alltimeset/133461

  • Desert MoonDesert Moon Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭✭✭

    N58-P62
    N55-P58

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  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    N62 to P58
    N58 to P55

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,935 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1. NGC 62 PCGS 58
    2. NGC 58 PCGS 53

    I would no bother to cross them

    Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.

  • msch1manmsch1man Posts: 809 ✭✭✭✭

    N58 to P58
    N55 to P53

  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A lot of kool-aid drinkers responding here.

  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62...58
    58...55

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jerseycat101 said:
    A lot of kool-aid drinkers responding here.

    You reap what you sow...

    Early Dollar Set
  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,935 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The Koolaid comment seems misplaced based on the question. Just because more people responded that the cross to PCGS was at a lower grade does not necessarily imply that the PCGS grade is the most appropriate for the coins. Those are separate questions.

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  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    All I know is that I love both coins!

  • DancingFireDancingFire Posts: 311 ✭✭✭

    63 to 61
    58 to 55

  • 1TwoBits1TwoBits Posts: 465 ✭✭✭✭

    I'll post the grades tonight.

    Also, the first time I sent them in for crossover at grade, neither crossed. The second time I lowered my min from the NGC grade to one grade lower.

    One person so far has guessed VERY close.

    1TwoBits

    Searching for bust quarters.....counterstamps, errors, and AU-MS varieties, please let me know if you can help.
  • SurfinxHISurfinxHI Posts: 2,592 ✭✭✭✭✭

    62 to 61
    55 to 53

    Dead people tell interesting tales.
  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A lot of folks see wear on #2, I think it is the strike

    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2017 1:09PM

    @jerseycat101 said:
    A lot of kool-aid drinkers responding here.

    states the choker who won't put his opinion out there. LOL
    N58 -P55
    N55-P50

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  • ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭

    61
    55

  • hchcoinhchcoin Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Beautiful coins! That 1824 is a knockout.

  • 1Bustcollector1Bustcollector Posts: 577 ✭✭✭

    I already know, but can't participate! I will say this, them sure beautiful!

    Persuing choice countermarked coinage on 2 reales.

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  • jerseycat101jerseycat101 Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coindeuce said:

    @jerseycat101 said:
    A lot of kool-aid drinkers responding here.

    states the choker who won't put his opinion out there. LOL
    N58 -P55
    N55-P50

    Neither coin is BU, in my opinion, both have obvious wear. I think the coins are 58 and 55 respectively.

    I'll say both graders gave those coins those grades.

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Also, the first time I sent them in for crossover at grade, neither crossed. The second time I lowered my min from the NGC grade to one grade lower.

    Ngc grades were higher based on this statement

    Early Dollar Set
  • cecropiamothcecropiamoth Posts: 969 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm probably way off, but I'll say --

    63 to 62
    55 to 53

    Jeff

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2017 6:08PM

    58 -->55
    55 -->58

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 5, 2017 6:03PM

    @tradedollarnut said:
    Also, the first time I sent them in for crossover at grade, neither crossed. The second time I lowered my min from the NGC grade to one grade lower.

    Ngc grades were higher based on this statement

    Not necessarily. A new submission yields a completely fresh set of eyes. Moreover, it could be that the coin has a problem not visible in the images that is borderline between market acceptable with a straight grade or a details grade. NGC grades could be lower, the same, or higher.

  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gorgeous examples, really nice coins!

    I'll guess the 1824 went from N62 to P61, and the 1825 B1 from N61 to P60.

    Same reverse die!

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  • JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭

    2 beautiful coins
    Both went from 55 to 53

    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    N 63 to P 63
    N 55 to P 55

    I don't think I've ever even held one of these, so there's that.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,244 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tick tock...

    Early Dollar Set
  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1TwoBits said:
    I'll post the grades tonight.

    Also, the first time I sent them in for crossover at grade, neither crossed. The second time I lowered my min from the NGC grade to one grade lower.

    One person so far has guessed VERY close.

    1TwoBits

    It's almost tomorrow.

    1 NGC 63 to PC62

    2 NGC 58 to PC55

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55 to 55
    62 to 58

  • 1TwoBits1TwoBits Posts: 465 ✭✭✭✭

    NGC 58 -> PCGS 55
    NGC 58 -> PCGS 58+

    When I first submitted them, they were in pre-pronged holders. They weren't beat up holders, but probably a bit dull with some wear. They didn't cross at grade the first time, so I sent them to NGC for reholdering into pronged holders. For the second attempt, I did lower my minimum on each to AU55. Apparently PCGS liked the 1825 better the second time around. I thought the 1824 would cross at 58 myself, and it was interesting to see all the MS grades listed.

    The second poster, Mannie Gray, pretty much got it, minus the star. Thanks to everyone's guesses.

    1TwoBits

    Searching for bust quarters.....counterstamps, errors, and AU-MS varieties, please let me know if you can help.
  • coinlieutenantcoinlieutenant Posts: 9,321 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I say 62 to 61 and 58 to 58.

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  • logger7logger7 Posts: 9,140 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Congratulations on the crossovers. Very nice coins, and based on the quality, submitted raw they might go Unc..

  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    a 58+ is a great grade in this coin of course. Congratz and they are lovely!

  • coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 6, 2017 7:25AM

    I like the overall look of the 1825 better than the 1824, but I misinterpreted the light contrast of the high points on both sides to be friction caused, in which case it looked to be less than what is normally considered AU58 surfaces.
    Props to manniegray, who got closer than everyone else here.

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coindeuce said:
    I like the overall look of the 1825 better than the 1824, but I misinterpreted the light contrast of the high points on both sides to be friction caused, in which case it looked to be less than what is normally considered AU58 surfaces.
    Props to manniegray, who got closer than everyone else here.

    (Insert Maxwell Smart voice here) "Missed it by THAT much!"

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