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Year and Authenticity of this Japanese Yen-Help!!

erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited June 26, 2017 6:33PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

Please help if you know anything else about this coin(denomination, year, etc). I cant read Japanese and my book only covers the 20th century coins and I cant find it in there. Fakes are everywhere!!

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    StorkStork Posts: 5,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 26, 2017 6:41PM

    It's not a yen, it's a 50 sen. Meiji year 3/1870.

    Do you have diameter/weight? I'm not sure I'm liking the granular appearance on the reverse. This is in an NGC MS-64 slab. The dragons aren't always hammered, but the reverse on yours looks a bit mushy.

    and this one from the just-concluded Heritage sale (a 65 in this case...the dragon is much better struck in this one).
    https://coins.ha.com/itm/japan/japan-meiji-50-sen-year-3-1870-ms65-ngc-/a/3055-38261.s?ic2=mybidspage-lotlinks-12202013&tab=MyBids-101116


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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have neither the weight or diameter. Coin is not in hand. I saw the granular fields and wondered about its authenticity, but I have US coins from that era with similar issues. US seller with a return policy, so that makes me feel a bit better.

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    TomBTomB Posts: 20,733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't like the reverse of the piece in the OP. To me, it feels counterfeit.

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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Questions asked to the seller. Thanks guys!

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    StorkStork Posts: 5,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Especially if he is telling you it's a yen!


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    erwindocerwindoc Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 26, 2017 7:19PM

    No, that was just me. Said 50 sen. May not matter. It will be "too small" for my crown album I think.

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    StorkStork Posts: 5,205 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm now using a bigger screen (and wearing my glasses...when did I get so old I needed bifocals???) and I definitely don't like the reverse. The obverse has too much metal around a few of the characters. The sen is a bit indistinct.

    I'd pass or if you've already bought it I'd make sure to take a careful look in hand and check the diameter/weight.


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    coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,790 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Very skeptical in terms of whether it is in fact genuine. From what I see I would say counterfeit.

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