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Ten minute Overtimes in the NFL?

CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

These guys are immensely stupid. How bought going back to sudden death....that sped things up.

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the NFL should go back to having a tie if Teams can't win within the allotted time. what they should be toying around with is the Field Goal, Kick-off and Two-point conversion.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Go to a 5 year and out rule for the players. Game would be much more exciting.

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 9,964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:
    Hey you kids , get off my lawn!!!!!

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The shortened OT is an admission by the NFL that the game itself, even as currently officiated is a danger. Regular plus preseason is 1200 minutes. To save a player form what 5 maybe 10 minutes of OT play per season seems like the decision of a league that is grasping at straws.

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In 10 years they might be playing 10 minute games.

    mark

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  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 23, 2017 10:25PM

    Just thinking that transforming the game from a balance of rushing and passing to mostly passing crates more plays per game. More chances to get hit. Perhaps the running play generally creates less trauma as well.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    is there any data about the increase in head trauma in regards to field surface, stuff like astroturf. we all know that's like taking the game off the sandlot to the paved parking lot. as I said in another thread, the NFL has moved away from career ending knee injuries to life threatening head injuries as technology to protect the players has advanced. there must be some underlying reason.

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why not just have the coin flip decide the game! GEEZE!!!!!!!

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:
    Why not just have the coin flip decide the game! GEEZE!!!!!!!

    But what type of coin??

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    if the NFL had the winner of the coin flip win the game, they would need to have a process in place to decide who got to call the flip. an easy way around that would be the Home Team always being heads. confusion would reign when they play games overseas!!

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would certainly tighten the point spreads.

  • steel75steel75 Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭✭

    Get ready for a lot more ties.

    1970's Steelers, Vintage Indians
  • jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭

    Exactly, steel75....this is the first step in the NFL's plan to eventually move to the god-awful college overtime system. There will be more ties this season and/or 1 or 2 games where a team holds the ball for almost the entire OT and the other team doesn't get a chance to move back down the field. Of course, this will lead to outcry for a better system, and since the NFL won't be able to go back to 15-minute OT's for "player safety reasons", they will then move to the college rule. Mark my words.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    why do you perceive "ties" as being a bad thing??

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,112 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keets said:
    why do you perceive "ties" as being a bad thing??

    i'm afraid to ask if you have a sister

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    you've lost me.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keep it simple......

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm surprised they haven't gone to 4 points for longer FG's. That would really mess up the record books.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DIMEMAN said:
    I'm surprised they haven't gone to 4 points for longer FG's. That would really mess up the record books.

    So late in the game a team down by 4 might take a sack to move back to the 4 point line.

    I kind of like that.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wish they would eliminate the Field Goal.

    what is the basic idea of a Football game?? I always thought that it was to advance the ball and cross over the goal line into the opponents end zone. why should one Team be rewarded with a victory just because they have a guy who can kick the ball farther and more accurately than the other Team's guy??

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keets' the game is called football, foot ball.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    yeah, they kick-off to start each half and after a score. they also punt. what's your point??? sounds to me like you need to watch soccer if you're so enthralled with watching kicking games. I will put it too you again: why should a 60 minute game of athletic struggle be decided because one Team has a guy that can kick the ball long and accurately??

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 31, 2017 2:23PM

    @keets said:
    yeah, they kick-off to start each half and after a score. they also punt. what's your point??? sounds to me like you need to watch soccer if you're so enthralled with watching kicking games. I will put it too you again: why should a 60 minute game of athletic struggle be decided because one Team has a guy that can kick the ball long and accurately??

    Because it's part of the game and has been for decades?

    Why should basketball be decided by intentionally fouling a player at the end of a game? It's usually done for strategical reasons. Same as a field goal in football.

    Kickers and punters are just as much a part of the 53 man roster as anyone else. Just like a 3 point specialist who comes off the bench in a hoops game

    I wouldn't mind if field goals were reduced to two points instead of three though.

    mark

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,477 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FIeld goals are an integral part of the game. It would be ridiculous to eliminate them, IMO. I didn't even like the 2-point conversion, but I've learned to live with it.



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  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 9,964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keets said:
    why should a 60 minute game of athletic struggle be decided because one Team has a guy that can ****throw the ball long and accurately??

    Fixed that for you

    also substitute "run faster than some other meathead "

    The same arguments can be made for any sport

    for instance , cricket "stay awake for 3 days"

    nascar "make left turns for 5 hours"

    horseracing " shoot a horse full of drugs & be a midget "

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keets' the game is called football, foot ball.> @keets said:

    yeah, they kick-off to start each half and after a score. they also punt. what's your point??? sounds to me like you need to watch soccer if you're so enthralled with watching kicking games. I will put it too you again: why should a 60 minute game of athletic struggle be decided because one Team has a guy that can kick the ball long and accurately??

    Better ye get, rid of the ball altogether. The shape was always dumb anyway. It would have saved Tom Brady a lot of grief.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    my reply to everyone is that the essence of the game is to cross the opponents goal line with the Football, either by running or passing. I guess to a purist kicking counts, but I think it takes away from the spirit of the game. the way Field Goals have become so important kind of makes us Europe, Jr. all over again. I mean, think about it --- the whole reason we play Baseball is because England plays Cricket and we play Football because everyone else plays Soccer. in order to gain an edge the NFL recruited Soccer players and it is now gotten to the point where no one kicks in any other way.

    High School and College games are more exciting in some ways, there are many games which turn on an opponent opting to go for a fourth down instead of kick the field goal, not in any small part because the kickers are less proficient.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Keets' the essence of the game is to score more points than your opponent. When football was created the field goal received more points than the touchdown did. look it up!

  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If there were no field goals and no overtimes over half of the games would end in ties. Then football results would indeed be like soccer.

    mark

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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it is a bad thing, trust me.

    the fact that it was reduced in value should tell you something. the fact that there is a resurgence in the 2-point conversion should tell you something. the fact that they moved the Goal Posts back quite a while ago should tell you something. the fact that they changed the extra point distance should tell you something.

    the modern game is overly dependent on kicking and the League rules committee seems aware of that. they also should be doing something to address the over dependence on passing. trends like that develop over many years, seems to be noticed first by fans and acted on slowly.

    the fly in the ointment of all this are the concussions being suffered by players.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We can debate it ad Bochimanausium. Doesn't matter. NFL will never be the game that it was 20 years ago or 5 years ago. Like football now? You won't like it in a decade.

    The game is destructive to the players and whether they agree to accept that risk or not is irrelevant as the nanny state of 2017 has decided that people have to be protected from themselves.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 1, 2017 11:42AM

    If there were no field goals and no overtimes over half of the games would end in ties. Then football results would indeed be like soccer.

    and you guys think my line of thought is crazy!!! prior to 1974 when the NFL started with overtime it seemed as though there were always between 5-10 tie games each season, but if a game wasn't so focused on a field goal it's hard to say what the outcome might have been. also, if there wasn't such a focus on Field Goals two things would happen --- more Teams would try the 2-point conversion more often and there would be a freed up roster spot. ask any Head Coach how important that would be.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Call me when LeBron is once again happy to be an American

  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The line of thought of this thread has gone about as far off the deep end as it can.

    Come on man...field goals are as much a part of the game as anything....and always will be!

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,477 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with Dimeman...wait, what happened?? Lol..



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  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited June 1, 2017 1:46PM

    I hate Field Goals and they should be banned.

    sometime in the up coming season there will be a game when one Team scores 1-2 touchdowns and loses to an opponent who scores zero TD's but has a good kicker. oh, the humanity........................................

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 9,964 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If there is a tie in a Patriots game will my mortgage check bounce ? 10 or 15 minutes ? Its a minor change to something that harms or helps exactly no one . There are ties , they figure out the standings by common opponents or divisional records or somesuch and the world continues to revolve about the sun.

    Football is only a 16 game season they could play until someone won if they want. Ties in hockey or basketball have a much bigger impact as far as extra minutes . What about baseball ? 162 mind numbing games a year with the risk of extra innings yikes. Baseball is a sport where there should be ties, if after 9 innings no one is ahead its over

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the players don't like to play past four quarters, just a hunch.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Mt take on OT is to just continue regulation into the OT period as they do from the 1st quarter into the second.

  • jdip9jdip9 Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭

    Don't get me wrong, I don't mind ties. But shortening OT to 10 minutes was NOT done for player safety - I promise you that. Like 5 minutes of football is going to make or break these guys. It amounts to approximately 12-15 plays.

    America has made it clear they hate ties. Just look at college football and hockey changing their rules, and the baseball All-Star game deciding home field after there was a tie in a freaking exhibition game. Hell, there were TV and radio hosts losing their minds because there were 2 ties in the NFL this past season. There will be more ties under this new OT, and the sports media will overhype the issue that "ties suck" and make enough noise to have the NFL change to the college system in the next 3 years.

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