What the heck is up with these 1972 auctions?
PaulMaul
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Full moon tonight?
Tommy John PSA 9 currently at $152.50, VCP avg is $16.10
Jim Hardin PSA 9 currently at $105.22, VCP avg is $12.49
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A lot more powerful than usual, it seems.
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Buying group season.
The group is alive.
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The biggest lesson I've learned in this hobby, and in life, is that if you have a strong conviction, you owe it to yourself to see it through. Don't sell yourself, or your investments, short. Unless the facts change. Then sell it all.
Both cards look really nice, especially the Hardin. Would like to see more collectors getting involved with set building which has lost favor a bit over the years.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I thought you would enjoy seeing this Topps purchase order for FIFTEEN MILLION 14TH SERIES cards.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
The Tommy John ended at $167.50. I agree they're nice, but so is this one that I paid $25 for:
The $167 John is slightly nicer (imho) but not $142 nicer, lol..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
The month of May is traditionally the best month for selling, but a tough month to get a good deal as a buyer. This is because a good percentage of registry participants are in peak competitive mode for the last stretch towards earning the badges for the year for their respective sets as well as other collection year-end awards recognition. Of course not all participants care about that sort of thing, but enough do that it has a significant impact. Prices will take a dip in June compared with their May counterparts.
Also, May is a month where you can see an uptick in people trying to "steal" cert numbers from ebay listings and such, just to add to their sets even though they aren't purchasing the cards. Sounds crazy but it happens.
what he said
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
I've been bidding on 1972 9's recently, most,are going for well above VCP levels. But those two cards yesterday (Hardin and John) went for insane money. You can say the registry causing these kind of prices but these weren't low pop centered in action cards, they will show up again sooner than later.
Although not too important to me, maybe it had to do with registry awards and getting some upgrades before the end of May deadline.
As far as the registry awards go, I don't disagree with that being a factor in general, however with the '72 set, the two people atop the registry pretty much need only tougher 10s.
I agree. Maybe they needed these cards for set registries other than the 1972 basic or master sets. It's all conjecture though. Who knows these days.
it doesn't have to be the top 2 people that compete for a card.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
nice card....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
I'm not sure I'd say you'll see these commons again soon... As famed '72 collector Bill Novick noted a few years ago, commons from this set have a way of flooding and then completely disappearing. For example, a couple of years ago, 4SC had a new Gary Neibauer card up seemingly every week. I can't remember the last time I saw one of those come up.
I was surprised to see that no Jim Hardins have come up recently on Ebay, as I think of that card as most common. 4SC had a Tommy John someone snapped up, but it was OC.
I do know that a big collector, in the past, was holding out for a nice Tommy John. Maybe this was it.
especially after the surgery is done to every pitcher now lol
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
My impression over the last several years is that unless the card is one of the notorious low pop beasts, few collectors care much anymore. A Del Unser 9 has been sitting at $119 for months unpurchased when it used to sell for three times that 6 years ago. And cards like Neibauer, and so many others that used to be low pop but are now marginal (Neibauer 9 is now pop 40), rarely draw any real interest when they come up now. I won this Neibauer last June for $16.50, and it's actually a nice example (4SC flip of course
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That's a beautiful card, David. You always do a good job scanning your cards, too. I will have to come off the minis and resume my 72 set again soon.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Thanks Tim, the irony is these scans are from my 10 year old HP Photosmart. I had to get a new printer (I got an HP Envy) last year because the Photosmart would not work with my new MacBook Air. I assumed that the scanner on the new HP would be at least as good as the old one, but no such luck, the new scanner utterly sucked. I've been meaning to get a dedicated scanner, but in the meantime I have to drag the ancient printer out of the closet every time I want to scan cards...
For an old device, it does a great job capturing the natural color of the card without overly enhancing it.
I like the way you proportionate the black box around the card also which allows the colors to pop.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Do the registry award winners receive an all expenses paid cruise or European vacation? With the prices people pay to win these things, you'd think so. Blows my mind
TheClockworkAngelCollection
yes i got my cruise ticket
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major_League_Baseball_players_from_Panama
ebay.com/itm/1972-Topps-271-Ken-Rudolph-PSA-9-Cubs-/322533614978?&autorefresh=true
Another 1972 head scratcher. VCP is below $10 on this one, hard to judge the centering with that terrible picture. I've been consistently getting outbid on 1972 PSA 9's the last month or so, someone has been willing to go much higher than VCP on commons
Very odd, especially because there are FOUR bidders north of $45.
According to the VCP you can buy the Hardin for $65.00...(in a 10 holder).
Three sets show updates in the top 20 right now. There are 185 active sets which is a lot so maybe people are throwing caution to the wind and trying to improve their sets.
I mentioned the Rudolph auction on the set registry forum... I think the current 1972 action, with sub-500 feedback bidders battling over commons that haven't been listed recently, suggests that new buyers are getting into this set. These people likely don't have memories of what these cards have traditionally sold for. They might not have VCP.
I have to admit, I've never had VCP and I've collected this set since 2008. I am neurotic about numbers, though, and thus have checked the new listings and completed listings every day in that time frame. That's how you learn...
Some commons get this recent, frenzied action, but others (White Sox Team $8.55, Gene Alley $2.50) do not. A lot of BINs are going off right now. We'll see if the wave passes or sticks...
A tip to anyone getting in: buy the star cards first.
I find buy it nows to be a much more lucrative avenue for commons. Many can be had reasonably without the competitive bidding frenzy.
??? This card has never sold for more than $25 in the last 12 years!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-TOPPS-393-CURT-MOTTON-PSA-9-MINT-/192285829188?hash=item2cc520e844:g:0UYAAOSwhf1ZnMIj
Now this PSA 9 Larry Stahl ending tonight is up to $152.50...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1972-TOPPS-782-LARRY-STAHL-PSA-9-MINT-/202048761979
Meanwhile, I paid $24 last March for this one on a buy it now that had sat for two days when I took it. And it's not even the same two bidders as last week!
Ray Fosse, Jim Maloney ($277), Mike Hegan, etc all PSA 9's that sold this week for ridiculous, no make that stupid money. Two guys bid up a Bobby Knoop card to $77 when there are a couple of well centered BIN on eBay for a third of that price. Paul Maul said it's not even the same two bidders doing this, what would these guys bid an Expos team or a Foli IA to?
Wow, I missed a lot of these! $228 for the Hegan. In March, I felt I had overpaid when I made a best offer of $24.90 for mine, and it's nicer than this one (which last sold in July, 2014 for $22). Mine was the highest price that had been paid for the card in three years at the time. How big an ego must these guys have that they can't say enough is enough on these auctions?
These results have me thinking about listing for sale the 72s I have, lol..
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Add the Gil Garrido card to list, it ends tomorrow and the two bidders with more money than sense have it over $175
It seems like the buyers group are targeting 1972 Topps PSA baseball....