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Could the US economy withstand an 8% rate on ten year notes.

CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited April 12, 2017 12:53PM in Precious Metals

That would equate to appx $1.68 Trillion a year in debt servicing cost once the current $21T in debt had been refunded.

Far fetched? That was the rate during the screaming stock market rally and crash in 1987.....of course the national debt was only a tenth as high.

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  • cohodkcohodk Posts: 19,127 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not far fetched at all. I think smart money would welcome 8% rates.

    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2017 3:02PM

    Can it?

    it has survived worse.

    courtesy the St. Louis Fed

    and the 30 year



    note: you don't inflation adjust percentages.

    unadjusted gold from you know who

    and inflation

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  • derrybderryb Posts: 36,823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:
    . . . once the current $21T in debt had been refunded.

    Good luck wid dat.

    "Interest rates, the price of money, are the most important market. And, perversely, they’re the market that’s most manipulated by the Fed." - Doug Casey

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,088 ✭✭✭✭✭

    come on hyper inflation!

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2017 3:04PM

    @derryb said:

    @Coinstartled said:
    . . . once the current $21T in debt had been refunded.

    Good luck wid dat.

    they need some 4% 100 year :/

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  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @derryb said:

    @Coinstartled said:
    . . . once the current $21T in debt had been refunded.

    Good luck wid dat.

    Refunded....not retired.

    At least with Morrisine on board, we would never be in uncharted territory.

  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 3,992 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:
    That would equate to appx $1.68 Trillion a year in debt servicing cost once the current $21T in debt had been refunded.

    Far fetched? That was the rate during the screaming stock market rally and crash in 1987.....of course the national debt was only a tenth as high.

    With our debt load rapidly heading to $30 trillion? No, we'll never see those rates again. Ever.

    Seeing the historical average of ~5% won't happen for at least a quarter century. All the balls can stay in the air that long.

  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 33,088 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited April 12, 2017 7:31PM

    @Coinstartled said:

    @derryb said:

    @Coinstartled said:
    . . . once the current $21T in debt had been refunded.

    Good luck wid dat.

    Refunded....not retired.

    At least with Morrisine on board, we would never be in uncharted territory.

    And the light hits me on this one.

    Can it survive with $20T in debt to keep refloating?

    No USA chart for that. :/

    In much older threads I relate the story of the dollar rise on our credit downgrade. People went into treasuries, too.

    There is a lot of money out there and too few places to put it.
    One clear breaking point is the point where the surplus money has found a happy home in assets other than our debt, and even more so outside any governmental debt.

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