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MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,341 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited March 26, 2017 11:35AM in U.S. Coin Forum

This might be fun if some of us are willing to give up a secret. Tell us about something you collect, and because you collect it, you know something about it that is not widely known. It doesn't have to be earth-shattering information, just something that is not widely known. I'll go first.

I collect 1892/1893 Columbian Expo Half Dollar exonumia. Love Tokens, engraved pieces, counterstamped, box coins, made into jewelry, etc. My little known secret: Counterstamped Columbian Expo Halves are hard to come by.

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OldEastside said:
    On Jefferson nickels from 1966 and up the FS under the bust doesn't necessarily mean they are FULL STEP :smiley:

    Steve

    LMAO!!! Good to know.

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One usually receives a better price on Ebay when selling a doily holdered coin by not mentioning it in the title. The collectors that see it think that they are getting away with something and bid more aggressively.

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 14,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    In the vast realm of 'knowledge; about coins.............I know very little compared to the aggregate knowledge presented here by the users. :smile:

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  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinstartled said:
    One usually receives a better price on Ebay when selling a doily holdered coin by not mentioning it in the title. The collectors that see it think that they are getting away with something and bid more aggressively.

    Do you think that's as effective as "L@@K" and WOW!

    I always fall for "looks undergraded"

  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,856 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The "D" along the rim of the Pilgrim commem is not a mint mark.

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A pretense of modesty prevents me from answering. :)

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good post, Topstuf.

    Best are the Ebay listings where the coin is broken out of the slab for whatever reason and they show the busted slab with the coin.

    oy vey

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Before I knew about bell lines, I used the little balls holding the bell to show a good strike. :o

  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Most 19th-century U.S. auction catalogs and fixed-price lists are rarer than the surviving coins of this era. The bulk of the known early auction and FPL literature can be traced to the Wylie Hoard, which was sold off by Frank Katen in a series of sales in 1977-1981.

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  • JJSingletonJJSingleton Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2017 3:24PM

    All 1861-D dollars were coined while the Dahlonega Mint was under control of the Confederacy.

    Joseph J. Singleton - First Superintendent of the U.S. Branch Mint in Dahlonega Georgia

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  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @topstuf said:
    Before I knew about bell lines, I used the little balls holding the bell to show a good strike. :o

    So all those trucks having a pair of balls dangling from their trailer hitches actually belong to Franklin half collectors? Who would have guessed that? :p

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  • BustDMsBustDMs Posts: 1,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Look up the first coin that sold in auction for $10K. The result might surprise you!

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    A: The year they spend more on their library than their coin collection.



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  • krankykranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭

    The Lafayette dollar appears to be dated 1900 but actually has no date in the traditional sense of the year the coin was minted. What appears to be the coinage date (1900) refers to when the statue would be erected. They were minted in 1899.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The smallest US coin is the Type I gold dollar while the lightest US coin is the silver 3 cent piece. The largest and heaviest legal tender US coin is the silver ATB (America the Beautiful) coin which weighs a full five ounces. The funny thing is the face value is only 25 cents.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,689 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @kranky said:
    The Lafayette dollar appears to be dated 1900 but actually has no date in the traditional sense of the year the coin was minted. What appears to be the coinage date (1900) refers to when the statue would be erected. They were minted in 1899.

    Yes, all of these coins were struck on December 14, 1899, the 100th anniversary of George Washington's death.

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The U.S. Mint is in Philadelphia because that is where the Capital of the United States was in 1792. Had it been created a few years earlier it would have been in New York, the first U.S. Capital. By the time Washington, D.C. was built the money had already been spend in Philadelphia, and it would have been wasteful to build a new Mint in D.C.

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  • DRUNNERDRUNNER Posts: 3,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I know the exact number of 1964-D Peace Dollars in private hands . . . just not the exact whereabouts at the moment.

    No. I cannot respond to any PMs on the subject.

    Drunner

  • Insider2Insider2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DRUNNER said:
    I know the exact number of 1964-D Peace Dollars in private hands . . . just not the exact whereabouts at the moment.

    No. I cannot respond to any PMs on the subject.

    Drunner

    Bet I know who has one that is not known to you...wink, wink. Ditto PM's.

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    While collecting Lincoln varieties years ago, I found that there are 3 mintmark styles for the 1928-S. The typical small S, the Large S that is in the C/P's guide, and this medium fat S that no one discusses. Early on, PCGS was attributing the medium S as a Large S.

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,753 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When it comes to collecting exonumia, pretty much everything is in this category!

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,731 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64 Kennedy halves are worth $32.00.

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  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 26, 2017 6:22PM

    @topstuf said:
    Before I knew about bell lines, I used the little balls holding the bell to show a good strike. :o

    That could be a new strike designation for these - FB (full balls). Does anyone know the technical name for the spherical structure?

  • CoinstartledCoinstartled Posts: 10,135 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1895 proof half dollar is as rare as the 1895 proof dollar and can be bought for 2% of the price.

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A mercury dime in 1932 had 2c of silver in it. A dime wasn't even a dime back then. A peace silver dollar....22 cents in silver.

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  • shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If I tell someone they have a fat S, I get slapped.

    Careful in collecting die varieties, if you have Condition Census (CC) #6 and only 4 people are collecting that series by die variety, there's little to no premium.

    ANA-LM, NBS, EAC
  • mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As far as my numismatic information,

    In the words of the Prophet, Clint Eastwood

    "A man must know his limitations."

  • U1chicagoU1chicago Posts: 6,520 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DRUNNER said:
    I know the exact number of 1964-D Peace Dollars in private hands . . . just not the exact whereabouts at the moment.

    No. I cannot respond to any PMs on the subject.

    Drunner

    So do I. It's 1,964 :D

    http://www.moonlightmint.com/blog_1.htm

  • SonorandesertratSonorandesertrat Posts: 5,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mustangmanbob said:
    As far as my numismatic information,

    In the words of the Prophet, Clint Eastwood

    "A man must know his limitations."

    And, when contemplating a purchase, bear in mind another of Clint's screen dictums:
    "Do you feel lucky, punk?"

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  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 10,086 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Something called "Flap" Jefferson nickels.

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭

    @MWallace said:
    Tell us about something you collect, and because you collect it, you know something about it that is not widely known.

    I collect IKE Dollars and Kennedy Halves and everything I know, because I have an uncontrollably big mouth, everybody else knows.

    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Modern error coin pricing

  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ....EOC - I hear ya !

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  • TurboSnailTurboSnail Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 27, 2017 1:11PM

    When I was a boy, I thought Franklin needed to have a full set of hair to be consider uncirculated ;)

  • pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭

    @TurboSnail said:
    When I was a boy, I thought Franklin needed to have a full set of hair to be consider uncirculated ;)

    Cute

    Paul
  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm told that there is a way to make split bands on a Mercury Dime using a laser.

    I don't know if that's true or false.

    If you do what you always did, you get what you always got.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DollarAfterDollar said:
    I'm told that there is a way to make split bands on a Mercury Dime using a laser.

    I don't know if that's true or false.

    More than a few have tried this using an X-Acto knife.

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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am pretty sure almost all coins have been called "RARE" at one time or anther on eBay.

  • FairlanemanFairlaneman Posts: 10,426 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @roadrunner said:
    A mercury dime in 1932 had 2c of silver in it. A dime wasn't even a dime back then. A peace silver dollar....22 cents in silver.

    Please Explain. 1932 Mercs are really rare and did they have any silver?

    Ken

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  • mustangmanbobmustangmanbob Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A mercury dime in 1932 had 2c of silver in it. A dime wasn't even a dime back then. A peace silver dollar....22 cents in silver.

    Please Explain. 1932 Mercs are really rare and did they have any silver?

    I believe the intonation is that the price of silver had collapsed so low, that there was only 1/5th the metal value worth of silver in a coin that was minted.

  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1863 L IHC

    Pat Vetter,Mercury Dime registry set,1938 Proof set registry,Pat & BJ Coins:724-325-7211


  • PTVETTERPTVETTER Posts: 6,024 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1863 L IHC

    Pat Vetter,Mercury Dime registry set,1938 Proof set registry,Pat & BJ Coins:724-325-7211


  • jwittenjwitten Posts: 5,234 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reverse of the 1908 $2 1/2 Indian was not the same as the other dates.. there is less detail in the eagle's shoulder/wings. Sometimes you can get a heck of a deal on raw ones because some people think they are worn:

    Most 1914-D's, and a few other dates, have these lines along the rim, making them look like they were removed from a bezel. You can also get a great deal on these sometimes because of that:

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    On the Indian gold quarter eagle and half eagle, all design features are incused and are below the fields with the only exception being the mintmark which is raised above the field since it was punched into the completed die in a separate operation.

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  • DeepCoinDeepCoin Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭

    CaptHenway, I sold a OBW roll for 260, so that is more like $13, but perhaps they got a bargain.. I know I was VERY happy

    Retired United States Mint guy, now working on an Everyman Type Set.
  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cameonut2011 said:

    @topstuf said:
    Before I knew about bell lines, I used the little balls holding the bell to show a good strike. :o

    That could be a new strike designation for these - FB (full balls). Does anyone know the technical name for the spherical structure?

    The structure that holds up the bell is the yoke that is made from American Elm. The two devices that hold the bell to the yoke are called U-bolts. The area in question would be either the head of the bolt or the nut.

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,341 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pocketpiececommems said:
    mwallace you might like this one

    I do like it. Very much!

  • No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,105 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Must be a "secret" because of what people are paying. I believe a great many of toned Morgan Dollars are fresh from the oven. Wonder when this little game will be up?

  • OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Each of the eight bronze Lincoln cents in the 2009 Mint Set has a lower mintage than the 1931-S.

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