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1970 Topps Rack in GAI Holder on eBay - test your knowledge

A quiz for those who are into early 70s unopened and want to test their knowledge on what is real versus fake (Tim and Manny should wait until others have had the chance to give answers).

Name at least 3 reasons why a 1970 Topps BB fanatic and unopened fanatic like me would be passing on the 1970 Topps Rack (Ryan showing in top) currently on eBay.



Dave

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  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    1. It's fake (Ryan in the wrong part of the rack?)
    2. You're not a Ryan fan
    3. You're afraid you will rip it and lose the investment

    But, mainly #1 :)

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  • JBrulesJBrules Posts: 2,126 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree with clockwork.

  • BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 3,025 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will wait for others to chime in but I'm thinking maybe Ryan in wrong section, GAI in general and/or mixed series? Possibly wrong header card?
    My question is: Do you think the seller has any idea if it's bad? He or she is also selling other packs including PSA graded packs.

    Daniel
  • maddux69maddux69 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I will agree with others in Ryan being in the wrong section, the seam beside the Ryan looks melted, and the header card has the wrong kind of punch.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Topps did not begin utilizing the crosshatch punch hole in the header card until the 4th series in 1971. All 1970 racks should bear a header card with a large circular punch hole. Invariably, when you see an aberration like this it is with a star card on top.



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭

    @grote15 said:
    Topps did not begin utilizing the crosshatch punch hole in the header card until the 4th series in 1971. All 1970 racks should bear a header card with a large circular punch hole. Invariably, when you see an aberration like this it is with a star card on top.

    I thought you were forbidden to answer...? ;)

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,727 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ClockworkAngel said:

    @grote15 said:
    Topps did not begin utilizing the crosshatch punch hole in the header card until the 4th series in 1971. All 1970 racks should bear a header card with a large circular punch hole. Invariably, when you see an aberration like this it is with a star card on top.

    I thought you were forbidden to answer...? ;)

    LOL. I was only following up on maddux' post. I will now return to my corner. B)



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too bad Jeopardy does not have a section called Topps Unopened questions from 1970-79 - one daily double and Tim would be the champ for a week on that show! For the board newbies buying anything unopened frok Tim is similar to getting something wrapped from BBCE. Same can be said for Dave if he would sell some stuff :D

  • flatfoot816flatfoot816 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭

    this rack was actually in my collection until 2015. I forget where I got it--early 2000 from 1 of the big AHs----but consigned it to PWCC. There was a separate thread on the racks in that consignment as several were questionable. Brent made mention of the fact that this rack was probably not a legit Topps issue.

    1st linky is to the eBay auction

    2nd link to the PWCC auction

    ebay.com/itm/1970-Topps-Baseball-Unopened-Rack-Pack-GAI-7-5-Nolan-Ryan-Front-/302257774941?hash=item465ff7a15d:g:AusAAOSwuLZYzyEE

    https://pwccauctions.com/item.php?item_no=1113162

  • BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 3,025 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well, that would answer my question from above if the current seller is the winner of the PWCC auction.

    Daniel
  • 70ToppsFanatic70ToppsFanatic Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭✭

    @ClockworkAngel said:

    @grote15 said:
    Topps did not begin utilizing the crosshatch punch hole in the header card until the 4th series in 1971. All 1970 racks should bear a header card with a large circular punch hole. Invariably, when you see an aberration like this it is with a star card on top.

    I thought you were forbidden to answer...? ;)

    Tim and Manny were not forbidden. They are both recognized experts, so I requested they hold off and see what the experts-in-training might come up with.



    Dave
  • 70ToppsFanatic70ToppsFanatic Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭✭

    @KendallCat said:
    Too bad Jeopardy does not have a section called Topps Unopened questions from 1970-79 - one daily double and Tim would be the champ for a week on that show! For the board newbies buying anything unopened frok Tim is similar to getting something wrapped from BBCE. Same can be said for Dave if he would sell some stuff :D

    Getting tougher to replace things you sell off, but if the offer is attractive enough (and my wife finds out about it) you might actually have some leverage. ;)



    Dave
  • kidzfundkidzfund Posts: 565 ✭✭✭

    Does anyone have a pic of a legit rack pack?

  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭

    Just asked the seller from where he obtained the rack. Waiting for his response.

    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 24, 2017 6:19PM

    @kidzfund said:
    Does anyone have a pic of a legit rack pack?

    Here is one (original price sticker still attached) with correct punch hole for 19070 Topps baseball:





    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • jmoran19jmoran19 Posts: 1,619 ✭✭✭
    edited March 25, 2017 6:41AM

    Awesome rak Tim, here are a few more

    1970 series 1, don't own this one anymore


    1970 series 3

    1970 Football series 1

    Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972

  • coinspackscoinspacks Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭✭

    looks like the ebay pack sold for the opening bid

  • kidzfundkidzfund Posts: 565 ✭✭✭

    Dang, those pics bring back memories...

  • bobsbbcardsbobsbbcards Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭

    I was going to answer:
    1) Topps didn't produce baseball cards in 1970
    2) Nolan Ryan never played for the Mets
    3) The crosshatch punch-hole thingy

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