I have been under the assumption that the Patent date for coin wrappers

AUandAG

was in the mid to late thirties. Perhaps that only applies to mechanical rolling?
Well here is a link to a date for the wrapper that predates this by 15 years: 1921
Just wanted to share.
bob:)
pdfpiw.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=1379751&idkey=NONE&homeurl=http%3A%252F%252Fpatft.uspto.gov%252Fnetahtml%252FPTO%252Fpatimg.htm

golden

I have two 25 cent coin wrappers that contained 1909 VDB'S. I bought the coins and the wrappers about 1973.

RogerB

The mints did not normally distribute coins is paper wrappers. But, in about 1854, they assembled rolls of 100 gold dollars for use by post offices. It made handling the tiny coins easier.

morgandollar1878

Very cool, thanks for sharing that link.

BStrauss3

The full patent is here: https://patents.google.com/patent/US1379751A/en

If you look towards the bottom, you'll see a modern patent that cites it and those have lot's more prior art cited... https://patents.google.com/patent/US6811075B2/en

However, the Downey patent from 1919 (1379751) looks to be the earliest. At least that that patent examiner found.

However, a patent search for coin wrapper, sorted by age finds this:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US186886A/en

And reading in there...

"Where silver coin is used in large quantities it is customary to make it up into twenty-dollar rolls, these rolls beingen veloped in a brownpaper covering, and when the rolls boar the mark or advertisement of any responsible firm they are accepted as correct without the delay of unrolling and examining them, being simply weighed. This practice has led to attempts to defraud, either by inserting smaller coins between the half-dollars in such rolls, or by taking a piece of lead pipe, filling it until the proper weight is reached, and placing a real coin at each end of the roll, so that, unless entirely opened, the fraud will not be detected."

So plain or printed brown paper would seem to have been a common practice in the 1870s.

AUandAG

thanks,

bob:)

tommy44

@golden said:
I have two 25 cent coin wrappers that contained 1909 VDB'S. I bought the coins and the wrappers about 1973.

In the early 60s I had a fellow that gave me original rolls of BU 1909 VDBs on consignment for resale. If I recall he wanted $100.00 per roll. Did I buy any for myself? Nooooo......

cameonut2011

Interesting find. Since this information is in the public domain, you would think the unsearched "original bank wrapped rolls" of Morgan Dollars would stop appearing on eBay or at least people would wise up. Sometimes it looks like the same people fall for this same scheme over and over again.

shorecoll

Technically, couldn't they be original bank-wrapped rolls if the bank wrapped them yesterday? The issue is scammers playing on people's lack of knowledge, and I would bet most scammers don't know wrappers didn't exist back then. I would guess from Bstrauss's note above that banks just used to wrap coins in butcher paper, etc. to make them easier to count.