1806 O-123 "Prime"

planonit

Only difference in the prime die state is the lack of the diagnostic reverse die CRACK (edit: I forgot this). I got curious and found 2 auctions where the O-123 was listed as "Prime". In 2006 one sold and Heritage listed it as an R5 but possibly a R6.

Two years LATER it sold another and it listed it as R6 but possibly a R7.

So obviously not much consensus. That was over 9 years ago. I wonder if the overall population has become more clear since then. I think (but I could be wrong) it would be a fairly sought after as O-123 is already a sort of hard to come by Overton.

MrHalfDime

What am I missing here? The OP states that the difference between the prime die state and later die states is "the lack of the diagnostic reverse die." Did you mean to say something different, like perhaps "the lack of the diagnostic reverse die crack"? Without clarification it does not make sense, at least to me.

lkeigwin

The O.123 (I prefer Tompkins' newer T-23 designation) is a legitimate R5- (64-80 extant). Which makes it pretty scarce.

The early die state without the reverse die crack is scarcer. Probably R6 (13-30), best guess by experts.

It's tough enough to collect the pre-turbans by date or variety. By die marriage is a real challenge. You'd have to be a lunatic to try collecting by die state. But okay, the early die state prime is pretty cool and, all else being equal, would likely sell for more.
Lance.

coindeuce

Maybe I'm just slow on the uptake here, but are we discussing Draped Bust Quarter or Draped Bust Half ?

LanLord

@coindeuce said:
Maybe I'm just slow on the uptake here, but are we discussing Draped Bust Quarter or Draped Bust Half ?

If they are talking Overton types, they are talking half dollars

Nysoto

I would estimate the 1806 T-23/O-123 prime as an R-6 rarity. My example does not have the reverse crack (ebay cherry years ago), and I have seen a few others.