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Dumb PSA Flip Question

Pardon a possibly silly question, as I started collecting 30 years ago, but am much newer on the graded scene...Do flips sometimes get crumpled inside the slab, or perhaps just don't fit well? Say for example ebay listing 162357397253. Maybe it's just the lighting, but they look kind of crumpled or something. Seen that elsewhere as well. Thanks much.

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  • travis ttravis t Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭

    It appears several of the cards have the same effect with the "crumpled" flip and several of the serial numbers start with the same prefix - 1921. Looks like a rush job and they weren't set into the frame perfectly. The cards aren't affected. You could probably get them cheap.

  • If I could ask another dumb question, I have a Yaz RC that has a frost patch at top of slab. Took a pic and cropped it, but doesn't show too great. It's the hologram holder. Hopefully this'll work. Would you (or anyone else out there) say this would be something to be concerned with, or not? Thanks and sorry.

  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a dumb question at all, but not enough frosting to indicate anything nefarious. It would not concern me.

  • BrickBrick Posts: 4,993 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does the grade appear appropriate for the card?

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  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can't remember what the cert numbers started with, but one time a couple/few years ago I remember receiving an order from PSA where every one of the labels in every holder had a slight wavy ripple effect going. I figured it could have had to do with some kind of temperature and/or pressure change relative to the shipping flight soon after they were sealed in their holders but who the heck knows? I can say for sure though that I have seen plenty of flips like that that I know were in authentic holders from PSA and not resealed by someone trying to make a fake.

  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,677 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it looks like the PSA 4 that it says it is, then I would think that you are okay. Most people trying to fake these would be putting the bad card in a holder with a higher grade.

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  • Thanks people. If I may ask one last thing here, does the same tend to hold for the older slabs as with the newer? Tampering, cracking will always show up as a long line of frost vs just an innocent smaller line? Read some about how they changed the holders a couple years back.

  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭

    FWIW, I've only had trouble with flips getting ripply/wrinkly with the old slabs, so perhaps the newer ones are less susceptible to temp/press/humidity?

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