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MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,961 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 9, 2017 9:15AM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

Just sharing these... I think I've answered my own question.
I found the date (with help) the left coin, 1913... but am not confident on the right side coin.
I think the 4 numbers are 1293 and the top numbers are 21 - Is it an 1895 ?

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  • ADGADG Posts: 443 ✭✭✭

    Coin on left is AH1327 year 6 which is 1913 AD.

    Coin on right is AH1293 year 21 which is 1895 AD.

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  • MeltdownMeltdown Posts: 8,961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrBreeze said:
    I believe they are 10 Qirsh.

    How can I tell? They are about the size of half dollars... Is that it?

  • ADGADG Posts: 443 ✭✭✭

    @Meltdown said:

    @MrBreeze said:
    I believe they are 10 Qirsh.

    How can I tell? They are about the size of half dollars... Is that it?

    On the obverse side (side without date) you can see a small Arabic "10" above the Qirsh symbol with both of your coins. Look just below the toughra. The picture above shows 5 Qirsh.

    The pardon is for tyrants. They like to declare pardons on holidays, such as the birthday of the dictator, or Christ, or the Revolution. Dictators should be encouraged to keep it up. And we should be encouraged to remember that the promiscuous dispensation of clemency is not a sign of political liberality. It is instead one of those valuable, identifying marks of tyranny.
    Charles Krauthammer

  • SapyxSapyx Posts: 2,355 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Calculating the correct year on an Ottoman coin requires some maths.

    A coin dated "1327 // 6" was struck in Islamic year 1332 (1327 + 6 - 1). AH1332 began on 30th November 1913, so a more probable AD date of issue for your coin is 1914.

    1293 + 21 - 1 = AH 1313, which began on 24th June 1895. Such a coin is perhaps more accurately dated "1895-1896", since half of 1313 fell in AD 1895, half in 1896.

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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,809 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A 20 Qirsh coin would be at least the size of a US silver dollar. I sent one in to PCGS within the past year

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  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,472 ✭✭✭✭

    Another impressive post Sapyx. I'd love to learn if there's a reference that gives you the exact starting date of each Ottoman year. Either way, I'm stunned!

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  • MrBreezeMrBreeze Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭

    The one reference book that I have used more than any other is, Illustrated Coin Dating Guide for the Eastern World by Albert Galloway. It covers Hejira, Japanese, Chinese, Indian, Hebrew, etc. It is an amazing reference with charts of AD cross reference and the exact dates of the Hejira years.

  • MrBreezeMrBreeze Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭

    Also, the dates are not always front and back like the coin illustrated.

  • ADGADG Posts: 443 ✭✭✭

    @MrBreeze said:
    The one reference book that I have used more than any other is, Illustrated Coin Dating Guide for the Eastern World by Albert Galloway. It covers Hejira, Japanese, Chinese, Indian, Hebrew, etc. It is an amazing reference with charts of AD cross reference and the exact dates of the Hejira years.

    Hey thanks. I knew it's more complicated than I described. I just look in Standard Catalog and go with whatever it says. There are also online sites for conversion between Gregorian and Islamic calendars.

    The pardon is for tyrants. They like to declare pardons on holidays, such as the birthday of the dictator, or Christ, or the Revolution. Dictators should be encouraged to keep it up. And we should be encouraged to remember that the promiscuous dispensation of clemency is not a sign of political liberality. It is instead one of those valuable, identifying marks of tyranny.
    Charles Krauthammer

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