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Is this a whizzed coin?

laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
edited December 8, 2016 4:23AM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

This 1900-B British trade dollar looks OK in hand but closer scrutiny is showing me a harsh cleaning (I think) of the obverse but the reverse doesn't look as bad.

I don't mind a light cleaning but this... Or am I wrong? I really have a hard time trusting my judgement . :|

What do you think this coin is worth in this condition? Dealer is firm at $90.

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is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato

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  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭

    No replies but I guess it doesn't matter-coin was returned this morning-no quibbles from the dealer either.
    Now, the search is on once more.

    One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics
    is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Kinda looks like normal wear to me, just an average looking coin,

  • Jackthecat1Jackthecat1 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭

    I would call it heavily bag marked, probably from spending years in a bag with other heavy silver coins.

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  • I know it's a little late, just saw post....It doesn't appear to have been whizzed. I agree with jackthecat1 = heavily bag marked.

    Persuing choice countermarked coinage on 2 reales.

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  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭

    I appreciate the input-does anyone have a pic of a whizzed coin so I can be more accurate in my assessments.?

    One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics
    is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Although it is used only occasionally, whizzing should be mentioned here, since light whizzing plus added toning can be deceptive. Whizzing is a technique in which surface metal is moved mechanically to create the illusion of luster. Heavy whizzing produces unnatural surfaces whose brightness does not resemble original luster. The "cartwheel" effect is replaced by a "sheen" that causes light to bounce off the surface differently, often with a diffused effect. When whizzing is light and is covered by natural or artificial toning, it is much more difficult to detect. If a coin lacks sharp detail but the luster appears full, light whizzing may be the culprit.

    Magnification is the best way to differentiate weakly struck coins from worn-die and lightly whizzed coins. On weakly struck coins, flow lines will still be present and luster will still "cartwheel." Worn-die coins may not have much "cartwheel" but still may have radial flow lines often the result of die erosion. Whizzed coins will appear smooth, and because the flow lines have been disturbed, they will not have normal "cartwheel" luster, but rather a diffused look.

  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Indeed whizzing looks like a very unnatural "luster"

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