Can you ms70 a Cent and still have it grade
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MS70 is not for use on copper. It can change the color of the coin.
Not likely. Will change the color from Red to Orange.
bob
Absolutely yes. The key is to dilute it. Use a 20% MS70 and 80% distilled h2O ratio and use it like a dip. I have had great results using this on proof Lincolns. Try it on a few cheap proofs and you will see for yourself.
I have experienced similar results as georgiacop on proofs, but no luck with MS coins, as Bob said, they look an unnatural orange color.
I thought ms70 can leave a blue AT type color on Lincoln's no?
Yes. Yes. Yes.
It can be done and has been done quite frequently. It has also resulted in bagged coins, as well, but sometimes you just have to know what to do.
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I have seen it change RB/BR to an attractive blue and make it into PCGS slabs.
I would concur with the 'blue' comments. I have done this more than once (!!!) and it has always resulted in a bluish, quite attractive tone. I have not tried to send these in to our hosts, but I see the exact look in many certified Lincolns . . .and I know exactly where it came from.
The best use for MS70 (yes, OT a bit) is on slightly hazy Morgans or any BU Warnicks. My experience is that the luster pops exquisitely . . . . . . and they DO certify.
Drunner
Usually they will bag the blue lustrous coins.
Usually.
It's usually fairly easy to spot a piece of copper that has been "MS70-ed."
Although for a while there was a grading service that was grading them.
I have seen both proof and MS Indian cent In PCGS holders
I have a 1944 cent that was in a very old 2x2 and had acquired a thick haze that I removed with ms70. That coin turned an interesting blueish, but at certain angles doesn't appear as blue.
Lets try it on a different cent... this is full strength MS70 applied with a cotton swab.
Before:
After:
The photo makes it look brighter than it really is. In hand it doesn't look "off", just a bright unc lincoln. Maybe I should have started with a more grungy coin to begin with, but the point is it didn't turn blue. I think it has more to do with what is already under the layer of whatever is being removed, the MS70 just reveals it.
Edited to not exactly answer the OP question. I have no idea, it all depends on the outcome.
Collector, occasional seller
It did not turn blue because it started red - start with a brown one and it turns blue.
If a guy could come up with a way of removing carbon spots a guy could make a lot a money.
I've used it on modern Lincolns and just got a unnatural color look.