Bust Halves - GTG - Grades posted in first post
TommyType
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Please give me your grades on the following two Busties.
- Both were graded within the last month, (if that helps you).
- Both were straight graded...(Not playing "Gotcha"....but if you think they SHOULD have been netted, feel free to say so).
- Apologies for the pics, but to be honest, this is pretty good for me!
- I have a reason for asking, which I will expound on when I post the grades in 24 hours or so.
1) 1832
2) 1833
Added:
I might get busy today, so going to slap this up there before I forget:
My reason for asking: Pre-submission, I personally graded them 30 and 20. While I might have been too conservative, I did see a difference between them! Yet they graded the same, and were presumably graded side-by-side since they were on the same submission.
So, I just wanted to see if I was nuts, or if the consensus agreed with me.
I show 21 responses, with the averages for the two being 35.7, and 29.0. So, call it 35 and 30, and I guess there is some agreement that the '32 is the better coin. (Full slab picture shows the nice warm brown color better, and shows why I always like her!)
Thanks for your responses....
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Nice halves!
I'm going to guess VF35 for both.
35 30
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Was thinking 30ish.
35, maybe 40 on the 1832
25 or 30 for the 1833
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I'd say vf30 for both
I'll go with 1832 as a VF30 and the 1833 as a VF25.
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These two die marriages were poorly struck, but particularly the 1832 O.110 which has a rather blunt obverse, weak upper right shield and left wing feathers, and a partially obliterated banner.
The 1833 O.105 has a poor detail above 50c, around the talons and arrow feathers, and central left wing feathers but otherwise comes much nicer than the '32 O.110.
My guess is the 1832 is XF45 and the 1833 is VF25.
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1832 XF-40 and the 1833 VF-30.....
That's what I was thinking at first. They are very clean coins with nice looking surfaces. I don't know a lot about the 1832 and the weakness on the reverse but I would guess they take that into consideration when they grade them if it is common for that die marriage. Another thing I like to look at is the center of the stars on the obverse. When you are getting into XF land, you really want to see the center of the stars unless the dies are weak for that marriage.
I'm at 35 and 30.
30, 25.
35, 30?
40,30
40 and 35 was what popped into my head.
35 and 25
30, 20
45,35
1: 35 but should be a 40. My guess is the planchet was thin in the area of the weak reverse strike?
2: 30
No matter what they are nice coins.
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40....35.
35...30
Do they take into account strike issues for the variety, if you don't ask them to attribute?
VF35
VF30
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Bump for grade reveal....
I've noted that it's fairly common on later date (early to mid 30's) coins to have the weakness on the reverse up through the banner. If you envision where the bustline is on the obverse, the weakness is always opposite it. And, there is usually a corresponding weakness in the bust drapery. There just wasn't enough metal to fill the dies with the pressure they were using? Don't know if they changed the dies, or the pressure, after the 20's (which usually seem better struck in that area).
A REAL Bust-Half-Nut will tell me where I'm wrong.....