1806 O-116 w/o die cracks?

planonit

The O-116 is common as they come but there is supposedly some without the reverse die cracks that is R7+. Every handled one or see one?

Considering that O-110 uses obverse 9 and that obverse 9 was used in 3 other die marriages and obverse 9 did not always have its very pronounced cracks are there any O-116 with no obverse die cracks?

Edit: I originally had this incorrectly asking about O-110.

LoveMyLiberty

1806 O-110 used obv. 6. In Tompkins book 1806 T-10, he states
that there are three known without obverse die cracks. The obv.
die is 6.

planonit

@LoveMyLiberty said:
1806 O-110 used obv. 6. In Tompkins book 1806 T-10, he states
that there are three known without obverse die cracks. The obv.
die is 6.

That is because I'm an idiot and did not proofread this. I mean 1806 O-116.

lkeigwin

@planonit said:
The O-110 is common as they come but there is supposedly some without the reverse die cracks that is R7+. Every handled one or see one?

Considering that O-110 uses obverse 9 and that obverse 9 was used in 3 other die marriages and obverse 9 did not always have its very pronounced cracks are there any O-110 with no obverse die cracks?

You probably need to rewrite your question.

Are you talking about O.110 which, as LML points out, uses obverse die #6 (which does have a die crack but was not used in other marriages)? It is not common. It's an R6. And there is no reverse die crack.

Or do you mean another 1806 die marriage? Obverse die #9 was used on the O.114, O.115, O.116, and O.117 (Tompkins calls it obverse die #10).
Lance.

planonit

@lkeigwin said:

@planonit said:
The O-110 is common as they come but there is supposedly some without the reverse die cracks that is R7+. Every handled one or see one?

Considering that O-110 uses obverse 9 and that obverse 9 was used in 3 other die marriages and obverse 9 did not always have its very pronounced cracks are there any O-110 with no obverse die cracks?

You probably need to rewrite your question.

Are you talking about O.110 which, as LML points out, uses obverse die #6 (which does have a die crack but was not used in other marriages)? It is not common. It's an R6. And there is no reverse die crack.

Or do you mean another 1806 die marriage? Obverse die #9 was used on the O.114, O.115, O.116, and O.117 (Tompkins calls it obverse die #10).
Lance.

3 minutes before you posted this I corrected it. I meant O-116.

LoveMyLiberty

This gets quite complicated but here goes:
Using both the Overton & Tompkins books you questioned if
O-116 obverse ever had been struck without die cracks in
any of it's die marriages.

I believe it did when it was used to make the O-114 die marriage
using Overton's obv. 9, with rev. J, and the obverse die was considered
in a perfect die stage. I do not know how many marriages were produced
at this stage.
Tompkins identifies this marriage as T - 16, using obv 10 & rev W .

Obverse 10 was used to strike T-30, T-20, T-17 & T-16 in Tompkins book.
Obverse 9 was used to strike O-114, O-115, O-116 & O-117 in Overton's book.