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KingcopperKingcopper Posts: 13
edited November 2, 2016 8:27AM in U.S. Coin Forum


I own a 1970 d ddo, 1970 s, ddo and a 1972 ddo. All of witch are raw, however uncirculated. Guessing, would be a graded ms-65 red. I'm thinking of selling to a dealer. if they were your coins what is the lowest offer you would take?

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  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Impossible to state fairly without a photo.

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  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,560 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard to tell from the pics. What are the FS numbers? The 72 doesn't appear to be the big one. How do you know they are DDO and how much did you pay for them?

    If they actually are true examples, you will need to get them certified to get decent value for them.

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There are more then one DDO in the 70's and in the 72 we need more info on them. then you can look them up at Stacks or heritage and get a starting point. Just remember they charge 18% that is added when sold so you will need to give a discount of at least that + 10% to 20% if selling to a dealer best bet if they are the big one's grade them and put them in auction. We need close up pic's of the coins to say what they are.



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  • Yah they are all the big ones. All the die marks matchup and all have strong doubling

  • I didn't pay for them. I found them in rolls I came up on some Lincoln cent rolls that were all double dies. all in original rolls

  • I stopped at this Bank and picked up several rolls of coins they gave me 3 rolls of 1943 steel pennies uncirculated, 1 roll of 1970 d, one roll of 1970s, two rolls of 1963 d, one roll of 1963, 1 roll of 1964 d. The 1943 were in old worn Brown paper rolls and written on them in pencil was the word "bad" in cursive writing. They consisted of many different errors and double dies. The 1970 and the 70 s we're in the same condition. None of these coins have ever hit a pocket

  • Sandman70gtSandman70gt Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sounds like you made an awesome score. Send in a sample of your best for grading/certification, thats what pcgs and tpg is for. You and your buyer both know what you have and they will be worth more to boot.

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,457 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2, 2016 1:42PM

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  • that's my plan but I'm broke right now so I'll have to wait a month or two

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,457 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2, 2016 1:43PM

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,457 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2, 2016 10:28AM

    @AMRC said:
    Impossible to state fairly without a photo

    with those photo's, it's too hard to tell

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  • SamByrdSamByrd Posts: 3,131 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2, 2016 10:46AM

    the 72 has many DDO's and only a few have any significant value or high collector interest. The 70 s there are many RPM and ddo and ddr's most are not very valuable. Most of the time the value is less then the certification fees. Research well before you send them in.

    better close up images would get a far better more specific response.

  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sounds almost too good to be true.

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  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the pictures, none of those look to be the big ones for the date.
    If you're sure that they are, post clearer pictures?

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the pics, none of those looks like the big one for the date.
    If you're sure that they are, post clearer pictures?

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the pics, none of those looks like the big one for the date.
    If you're sure that they are, post clearer pictures?

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the pics, none of those looks like the big one for the date.
    If you're sure that they are, post clearer pictures?

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,457 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2, 2016 1:40PM

    :/:/:'(

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,457 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2, 2016 1:40PM

    Sorry for multiple posts!

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  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,457 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2, 2016 1:39PM

    No delete button.

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can you post some better/ closer pics with more light, but without washing out the details? If you can get good pictures I would say selling online is your best bet.

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  • gonzergonzer Posts: 3,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @joeykoins said:
    :*

    +1

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,460 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm sorry to doubt the op, but this would be like hitting the powerball and then getting struck by lightning on the way to the lotto agent.

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 2, 2016 5:58PM

    The 70-S if it is die #1 (and OP said it was "the big one") is a _very _rare coin. It looks to be in nice condition, and as such would be a low-to-mid 4 figure coin (if it is problem-free and authentic).
    The likelihood of finding one of these in a roll would be very small.
    The likelihood of the 70-S being mechanically doubled or a lesser value double die is quite high.
    The 70-D has several doubled dies, none are "huge" or obvious, and while some of them are scarce, there is little demand for them, and a gem of even one of the scarcer dies would be extremely fortunate to top $50. And even then, you would have to find a rabid Lincoln variety guy who wanted it.
    The 72 would be an easy sell if it would be die 1,4 or 6....the other ones are common and not worth slabbing IMO.
    If you really feel the 70-S is die #1, you have a serious coin.
    Get a loupe, make sure the diagnostics match. Go to www.coppercoins.com. Best website out there on Lincoln varieties.
    If your coin matches, feel free to PM me and we can talk about what to do next.

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had a 1970-S DDO in MS66RD that I sold at Stacks for $12,500. 4 or 5 years back. So yes it would be like hitting a small jackpot per coin.



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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is one that is a MS65RB.

    photo 2.png



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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Type2 said:
    I had a 1970-S DDO in MS66RD that I sold at Stacks for $12,500. 4 or 5 years back. So yes it would be like hitting a small jackpot per coin.

    That's got to be one of the top pops for the variety.
    Do you remember where it ranked when you sold it?

  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1of 2 that are graded MS66 I had 4 at one time. 1-66, 2-65, 1-64 and sold them all.



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  • I bet that was cool.

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow!

  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow!

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't see the DD in Liberty? :|



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  • mariner67mariner67 Posts: 2,746 ✭✭✭

    @Type2 said:
    I don't see the DD in Liberty? :|

    +1

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  • MonsterCoinzMonsterCoinz Posts: 1,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it's your eyesight that's seeing double..

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  • 1630Boston1630Boston Posts: 13,905 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My eyes are bad but I see doubling on the E

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  • Type2Type2 Posts: 13,985 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like Die wear, The doubling should go left to right on the top of the coin and up and down on the Liberty part. We just need a straight on shot of the coin like this and we can tell you if it is or not do one coin at a time.


    or this



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  • Fortunately I'm not in question about whether or not it's hub doubling. I havnt sold many coins so after I get them graded I will make an attempt to sell. . They're not many of these that have been sold so I was hoping to get some information on current fair market value. I'm not too familiar with the above double dies, but I can assure you they are a different class of doubling than the 1970s ddo

  • jonathanbjonathanb Posts: 3,654 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They're not many of these that have been sold so I was hoping to get some information on current fair market value.

    Fair market value as they are right now is somewhat less than $0.10 each.

    IF you get them graded by PCGS, and IF PCGS agrees that they are doubled dies when they have examined them in hand, and IF PCGS returns them to you in MS-graded holders clearly stating the Double Die designation, then they are worth hundreds (for the 1972) or thousands (for the 1970-S) of dollars each.

    If PCGS returns them to you in holders that don't list the Doubled Die designations, then the fair market value is a few dollars each.

    Based on the pictures you've posted, I fear that you're in for some disappointment. Remember, the value isn't for just anything with any sort of doubling. The doubling must look exactly like the varieties that have value. This isn't an area where close makes a difference. It either is or isn't.

    FWIW, I'm not aware of any significant doubled dies for a 1970-D 1c. The most valuable minor doubled die for that date might be worth a few 10s of dollars but probably wouldn't even be worth the cost of slabbing. If you use your 1970-D as a benchmark and you don't see significantly and obviously stronger doubling (without a magnifying glass) on the 1972 and 1970-S, then there really isn't any point in paying for grading for any of them.

  • Cool thanks for the info. I'm gonna send them in eventually.

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