Greatest Jordan card of all time is now up for auction
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Barely 12 hours into the auction and already up to 75k. Oh mamma.
On the hunt high grade Star Basketball.
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Card Serial Number: 0009062551
Set Name : 1984-85 Star
Player Name : Michael Jordan XRC
Date Graded : Thursday, February 18, 2016
Centering Grade : 9.5
Corner Grade : 9.0
Edges Grade : 9.5
Surfaces Grade : 10.0
Autograph Grade : 0.0
Final Grade : 9.5
Pop 2 out of 523 graded
I have seen the other 9.5. This copy is nicer in my opinion. Pretty crazy that it was ungraded for so long. I don't think this is a crack and resubmit. No way it ever had a lower grade. It is not sheet cut either to my eye.
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Is it like Augusta National where you need to be asked to join or can you send me an application?
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The tilt just jumps out at me. That gets it a 9.5?
Agree! That's also the first thing I noticed!
I noticed that t/b centering is off, but maybe that is a Star thing. I also noticed the tilt...Not saying it isn't a nice card, just might bother me if I was spending that much dough.
you making at her run, dave?
Wonderful card!
WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
Isn't the Star issue the one PSA won't grade due to fakes? Just curious how you tell the difference between an authentic card and fake if this is the issue.
They're way ahead of you. They knew it was going to be listed a month ago.
This is 100% a 'buy the holder' type of card. There are nicer 9's.
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Unfortunately don't have the money set aside . Good lesson for having the money saved and ready for when "that card" comes around. I have been buying up many of the higher grades from other Star years and Jordan subsets though and putting together a nice Star basketball run.
Production numbers were very tight and the high quality cards are getting harder to find. I hope PSA wakes up one day. The information is there now that wasn't available when PSA ran into trouble telling real from fakes years ago and graders could be trained pretty quickly and reliably. Beckett does a great job for the most part but I would PSA to get back in the game.
So the question is, would you rather have this card or the highest graded pmg green?
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I hope this trickles down to peons like me with 8s.
I believe they will not grade them because the company like upper deck printed more at a later date to make $.
9 days to go. Will it challenge the 52 Mantle in price?
I am not sure what you are referring to. No Star cards were ever reprinted in their original form or from the original presses. There were fake variations printed and authorized reproductions which do not look the same which are easily identified.
Well-centered examples of that card have more top than bottom. If you look at the back, you'll see that it's centered pretty well.
According to Steve Taft, the reprints were only from a small run of the 1985-86 set, not the 1984-85 set.
I think that the card itself is tilted in the holder.
That rumor that the printing presses were fired up again has been disproven. Star outsourced the production process and never had access to the original plates.
There were a small subset of cards that were stolen from the production plant in sheet form at the time of original production and were cut illegally. These are called type II variations. Even these can be differentiated from the originals as they don't have bleeding of color onto the back of the card that the originals have.
Thanks for the information.
Diamond cut and oc top bottom. If it were in a psa 10 holder and being sold by 4sc, the outrage would get the thread locked. If it were submitting a batch of cards and only looking for 10s, I wouldn't include it.
Perhaps a bit more intuitive thinking will offer clarity. Let's say PSA decides to grade Jordan 101 along with the other wave of associated cards from the manufacturer. In and of itself, it seems proficient to do so, assuming the graders are well conditioned to identify what's real and what's not.
Ok, so then there are dozens, eventually hundreds or thousands of these things in circulation, offering cheaters an opportunity to use phony cards, phony holders and further clutter the marketplace with disastrous financial exchanges over unlicensed merchandise.
Thanks PSA for NOT jumping into this mess.
I remember being in a little shop in Cromwell CT in 1993 holding an SBC 98 of this card.
It was stunning and I so wish I had bought it It's basically what got me hooked on graded cards.
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How can u tell a card has been sheet cut?
That card is overgraded. Bigly. Believe me. I know it, you know, everybody knows it. BGS is rigged. -Trump
@mintonlypls - I have been looking for something on that, as well. From what I can tell, look for signs of the card being rolled (similar to when you open a poster), along with unusually smooth edges (particularly compared to issues -OPC - known for rough edges), and the actual measurement of the card. If anybody knows of any other signs it would be greatly appreciated.
In regards to the thread - great card. Remember seeing bagged Star sets at card shows back in the early 90s.
Nasty.
I don't know this.
I don't follow. I guess I don't see what makes the reprints from this any different from the reprints of any other key cards.
I don't think 6 figures is that common. Also, if it is rigged, I'd like info on that. My knowledge ends at the 9.5 being incorrect.
I noticed that there are concurrently a BGS 8 and a PSA 8 of this card listed for sale right now. The BGS is an auction at $7,950 with no bids yet. The PSA 8 is a BIN of $95,000. Yes, I get it that it is quite a rarity to have it in a PSA holder, but come on, that difference is ridiculous.
It's actually not that hard to tell the difference because the ink and paper would be different. BGS has only graded 35 mint cards in the last eight years, that's pretty consistent with what the production numbers were.
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The unlicensed cards were different cards/photos from the licensed cards. They were printed years after the originals and there is zero chance of confusing the two. Beckett does not grade these unlicensed cards and neither would PSA. The counterfeit cards are no harder to tell from counterfeits from other manufacturers. Original cut cards often have a touch of the color used on the front of card onto the back edge.
For anyone who is interested is learning more about Star basketball, there is a website started by a very knowledgeable collector I have bought from. I got interested in Star basketball because I wanted to own the earliest official NBA licensed copies of some of the greatest basketball players to walk the Earth. The Jordan #101 was produced two years before the 86 Fleer. Star also had the first official copies of Drexler, Isiah Thomas, Barkley, Ewing, Stockton and many more.
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I have a BGS 8.5 of this issue, but it pales in comparison to this offering. Time to look for quarters between the couch pillows.
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The biggest lesson I've learned in this hobby, and in life, is that if you have a strong conviction, you owe it to yourself to see it through. Don't sell yourself, or your investments, short. Unless the facts change. Then sell it all.
At $115,100 with seven days to go. I would love to hold this card in person.
Auction gaining steam again into the final two days. Now up over $136,000. Would be crazy to see over 200k, but I am going to guess $159,000 as final.
$153,400 with a little less than 24 hours left!
Yes. It's kind of strange how the unequal t/b centering is centered.
$164,700 for a final bid. Now we have to see if the winner pays up!
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