Blue Flip Auto to Red Flip Auto Cross

VitoCo1972

So when I went to the Long Beach Expo and did a couple submissions two weekends ago, I was told that you can not submit Blur Flip autos at the standard card grading price anymore. I was stunned. They told me I had to pay full rack rate ($25/ea) and submit them as Red Flip auto submissions. This absolutely floored me. Anyone have any idea why this is? If they've already authenticated the autograph (hence the blue flip), why would you need to pay the full Red Flip price to have it crossed over? Makes no sense to me. If they wanted to charge a cracking fee per card, that'd be one thing. Charging full rate for a service that's already been half paid for once is crazy town.

PSASAP

Sounds like it makes more sense to just crack it out of the blue flip holder and submit it with the group sub. But then you're taking a chance that the auto might not be authenticated again.

RipublicaninMass

Doesnt sound right to me, however with this new "trading card" blue flip label, maybe it's the case.

PSASAP

Is there a chance that we could send in a bulk sub of blue flips and get a discount? If so, I've got at least twenty blue flips to send in.

VitoCo1972

I have at least 6 and might buy a couple more if we could get them to agree. Anyone have a good relationship w/ customer service?

ZTarg

A question Ive always had is.......between Blue Flip, Red Flip Authentic, and Red Flip with a number grade. how would you rate their desirability/sale-ability from best to worst?

MrHockey

RIP blue flips.



At this point, I just crack em and send the stuff with my red flip raw subs.

yankeesman

I just got into this with my Topps Rookie Cup auto run. I was just going to leave them in blue flips until they started putting "Trading Card" instead of the set the card was from on the flip. I called and was told the same thing initially - $25 per card. I had just received a blue flip sub back and certainly wasn't going to pay the $15 initially to sub for a blue flip and then pay another $25 per card to cross over. Since I was sending in a large bulk lot (53 cards) they went to a manager and gave me a discounted rate to crossover of $10 per card which is fair since that puts me to where I would have been had I submitted under the red flip dual submission in the first place. If you can get a group sub up I would imagine they would probably do something similar instead of the $25 per card they're quoting to folks.

VitoCo1972

Originally posted by: yankeesman
I just got into this with my Topps Rookie Cup auto run. I was just going to leave them in blue flips until they started putting "Trading Card" instead of the set the card was from on the flip. I called and was told the same thing initially - $25 per card. I had just received a blue flip sub back and certainly wasn't going to pay the $15 initially to sub for a blue flip and then pay another $25 per card to cross over. Since I was sending in a large bulk lot (53 cards) they went to a manager and gave me a discounted rate to crossover of $10 per card which is fair since that puts me to where I would have been had I submitted under the red flip dual submission in the first place. If you can get a group sub up I would imagine they would probably do something similar instead of the $25 per card they're quoting to folks.

The same should be true of RAW cards that have PSA stickers on the back (have a couple of those too). And it's completely stupid that you can't submit those and the Blue Flips at the same time for Red Flip slabbing. It's the SAME service...grading the card.

RipublicaninMass

My blunder a while back was sending in blue flip along with red flip 'authentic' for numerical card grade. I was told they are in separate systems and require seperate shipping. Always worth it to call and double check. I've been just cracking my blues a few at a time as I dont think I'll have a substantial amount to warrant a discount. Already up to a whopping 2!

spanky74

Yep, I started a couple of threads complaining about this new policy earlier in the year. I was told it was all part of the new dual grading stuff which makes zero sense imho. Actually, for a while, you could still submit blue flips as crossovers in the online submission system, but they actually killed that while one of my submissions was in limbo while I was arguing with them that their own system still allowed the old pricing.

I have about 20 blue flips that I'll guess I'll just submit with next years group red sub.

RipublicaninMass

My blue flips are pretty worthless, so it's either a deal on the reds, or they stay as is. No harm as I don't need to add them to the registry.

luftmich

I would be interested in a group crossover sub if anyone puts one together.

Dnice

So are you saying that the blue flip is no longer being done? And now the only option is to do red at its $25?!

If that is correct, I am going to guess that a lot of cards of semi stars like Andre Dawson or Fred McGriff are not going to be graded after that fee mark up. How much can one really expect to make off their card. As of now, cards with semi stars typically sell anywhere from around $20 - $30 and a lot of those don’t even get sold and stay up for sale on eBay for months and months. Now imagine if the sellers have to raise the prices on those cards that aren’t even regularly selling in order to try and make a small profit. No Bueno.