Is the Wayte Raymond name a great pedigree?
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Just wondering what the learned members think.
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Raymond may have been more than just a casual collector, but his name is more synonymous with innovations in publishing collector's U.S. coin storage albums and price guides.
Had a feeling many would feel this way thinking that he is noted only for his coin albums, one should do a little more research and realize that he was a great dealer of great coins and made huge purchases for the times. So I would venture to say his name is either under graded by a number of points and needs to come out of the storage closet
Raymond may have been more than just a casual collector, but his name is more synonymous with innovations in publishing collector's U.S. coin storage albums and price guides.
Had a feeling many would feel this way thinking that he is noted only for his coin albums, one should do a little more research and realize that he was a great dealer of great coins and made huge purchases for the times. So I would venture to say his name is either under graded by a number of points and needs to come out of the storage closet
Whenever you care to cite a coin from his personal collection that is provenanced, I would be thrilled to see it.
"Everything is on its way to somewhere. Everything." - George Malley, Phenomenon
http://www.american-legacy-coins.com
Raymond may have been more than just a casual collector, but his name is more synonymous with innovations in publishing collector's U.S. coin storage albums and price guides.
Had a feeling many would feel this way thinking that he is noted only for his coin albums, one should do a little more research and realize that he was a great dealer of great coins and made huge purchases for the times. So I would venture to say his name is either under graded by a number of points and needs to come out of the storage closet
Whenever you care to cite a coin from his personal collection that is provenanced, I would be thrilled to see it.
Here is a quick example, from the front page of the Norwalk Hour in Norwalk Conn., Saturday March 10 1923:
"Wayne Raymond Puts $100,000 in Coin Set, South Norwalk Numismatist Secures Ellsworth Collection; Record Coin Deal",
"Wayne Raymond dealer in coins, of 439 Park Ave, N.Y. and whose home is in South Norwalk has bought M. Kneeler & Co. the collection of early American and U.S. coins recently sold to the Kneeler syndicate by James W. Ellsworth. Mr Wayte paid about $100k for the coins said to be the largest amount even given for a numismatic collection in this country.
The collection has been known for years as the finest in the U.S. and Mr Ellsworth, who has disposed of all his art works and other rare collections with the exception off his Innes paintings and a Rembrandt counted it as one of the most interesting and valuable of his possessions.
Among the valuable coins in the unique set of Nova Constellation patterns for a decimal system struck in 1783, in denominations of 100, 500 and 1000 mills. This set was from the celebrated Parmalee collection sold in N.Y. in 1890.
There is also the doubloon struck in N.Y. in 1787 by Ephraim Brasher of which there are only four specimens. There are only four pieces of the Colonial period and early trial pieces used before the regular adoption..............."
You get the picture, he had some incredible coins in his ownership that is for sure.
Possibly few are aware of this fact. Wish I could post the original article.
I like pedigree.
I like albums.
But I get kinda turned off when you ask a question for opinions on a subject you now seem to know lots about and when someone gives you an opinion you suggest they should do more research?
Like a bait thread.
Sorry if I'm reading it wrong.
It does sound like some interesting history.
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I like coins.
I like pedigree.
I like albums.
But I get kinda turned off when you ask a question for opinions on a subject you now seem to know lots about and when someone gives you an opinion you suggest they should do more research?
Like a bait thread.
Sorry if I'm reading it wrong.
It does sound like some interesting history.
I understand. I just looked up or googled the info this am, didn't know it before other than owning a Wayte Raymond Encyclopedia type of book, and an old auction catalog of his. I have always thought his name was a great name but wanted to know if others thought the same. And when a member here said that his name wasn't great, that he didn't own any great coins, and wasn't described as a great dealer I got looking for info on him. I had a feeling that possibly some would only relate him with coin holder books because of their prevalence in the market even today. I always thought his name was on the level of Pittman and Frousard and Awash etc and now I know even more, that he was actually a big time dealer and possibly collector and when he died he must have had some sale of the coins that were in his inventory/collection. I will continue my search since now I am on a roll and uncovering what I think are cool possibly little known facts about the man. I am glad Coinduce motivated me to search it out, wouldn't have uncovered it if I didn't post my question. Now I will become more aware and possibly learn what I only previously assumed or depended upon hearsay.
My point was never to sucker somebody, I am finding this out as quickly as I am writing this
Ex: Wayte Raymond as plated in his hard times tokens article in the 1938 "The Coin Collectors Journal".
Makes perfect sense and I'll repeat that it is interesting history.
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Wayte is Grayte
Ex: Wayte Raymond as plated in his hard times tokens article in the 1938 "The Coin Collectors Journal".
Hubba hubba, that is one sweet piece of high grade tasty chocolate, I guess Wayte had great taste by that example.
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Just wondering what the learned members think.
This may be a bit off topic, but if you want to know practically everything there is about Wayte Raymond's connection to numismatics, I highly recommend David Lange's book on the subject. It's very informative.