1822 N-13 an N-14

planonit

Obviously very rare but I might be getting a slew of lower grade large cents with many 1822 and curious fastest ways to try and catch either one.

I like develop faster ways to spot die marriages. Gotten good at Overtrons but Newcombs not so much.

savoyspecial

for N-14 I have always looked for the feet of AME in AMERICA to be touching at the base and the leaf from the wreath gets especially close to ME (in the same word)


I don't have a method (sans printed reference) for N-13

LoveMyLiberty

N-13 can be a bit confusing. This obv. was used to strike 5 different

marriages ( N-7, N-8, N-12, N-14 & N-13 last )



The reverse die used for N-13 was also used for N-11.



To identify an N-13 die marriage look for the following details and

they must all be present.



* On the obv see that the star above Liberty's head (S-7) points to

the left edge of a dentil. This is where a die crack started and can

be seen on some pieces to extend over Liberty's hair, thru the B E

of the crown & down to the neck on some pieces.



* The date numerals should be, the 1 over the space between two dentils, the 8 over

a single dentil as well as both 2's over single dentils.



* On the rev see that the leaf below the last S in STATES is only

3/4 the way under the S.



* E2 sits higher than S2 at the end of STATES.



* The outer leaf should be at the middle of the D in UNITED.



It might sound complicated, but if followed exactly it works.

Hope this helps.

planonit

Originally posted by: LoveMyLiberty

N-13 can be a bit confusing. This obv. was used to strike 5 different
marriages ( N-7, N-8, N-12, N-14 & N-13 last )

The reverse die used for N-13 was also used for N-11.

To identify an N-13 die marriage look for the following details and
they must all be present.

* On the obv see that the star above Liberty's head (S-7) points to
the left edge of a dentil. This is where a die crack started and can
be seen on some pieces to extend over Liberty's hair, thru the B E
of the crown & down to the neck on some pieces.

* The date numerals should be, the 1 over the space between two dentils, the 8 over
a single dentil as well as both 2's over single dentils.

* On the rev see that the leaf below the last S in STATES is only
3/4 the way under the S.

* E2 sits higher than S2 at the end of STATES.

* The outer leaf should be at the middle of the D in UNITED.

It might sound complicated, but if followed exactly it works.
Hope this helps.

Both answers from both posters are actually fantastic and I tried it out with some coins from few past auctions and it the instructions are great.

N-13 is indeed a total pain in the rear end to attribute and those steps by steps are excellent. I copy and pasted and saved in a word document to keep.