Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
If the mint wants to do something really cool they could use what they found to create a 2021 Peace dollar commemorative. I'd buy that even if they made it of unobtanium.
The US Mint should hire me to make some from those galvanos/hubs/dies.
If they were struck over genuine coins, that might allow the Mint to make them without requiring Congressional approval (since they would only be altering coins that were already issued with the same design, and not issuing entirely new coins which requires an act of Congress).
Originally posted by: BryceM If the mint wants to do something really cool they could use what they found to create a 2021 Peace dollar commemorative. I'd buy that even if they made it of unobtanium.
They could make a set in 2021 which includes 2021-dated Morgan & Peace dollars, plus 1964-dated Morgan & Peace Dollars struck from those original dies. They could probably sell 100,000+ of those sets.
The US Mint should hire me to make some from those galvanos/hubs/dies.
If they were struck over genuine coins, that might allow the Mint to make them without requiring Congressional approval (since they would only be altering coins that were already issued with the same design, and not issuing entirely new coins which requires an act of Congress).
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Walker Proof Digital Album Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Based on the photos of the galvano, the mint did a great job of making it look like a modern-day Chinese counterfeit.
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The US Mint should hire me to make some from those galvanos/hubs/dies.
If they were struck over genuine coins, that might allow the Mint to make them without requiring Congressional approval (since they would only be altering coins that were already issued with the same design, and not issuing entirely new coins which requires an act of Congress).
The US Mint should hire me to make some from those galvanos/hubs/dies.
If they were struck over genuine coins, that might allow the Mint to make them without requiring Congressional approval (since they would only be altering coins that were already issued with the same design, and not issuing entirely new coins which requires an act of Congress).
The US Mint should hire me to make some from those galvanos/hubs/dies.
If they were struck over genuine coins, that might allow the Mint to make them without requiring Congressional approval (since they would only be altering coins that were already issued with the same design, and not issuing entirely new coins which requires an act of Congress).
Yes they should, and make a documentary about the Morgan history and then you making these dollars, including the entire process.
You do not get enough credit for the artist that you are, at least around here.
dcarr:But I had not ever considered a "1964" Morgan.
The time is now to consider,Mr. Carr.
Which is why I suggested a 1965 to him. But, like a true artist, he follows his own path instead of what's "trendy". I both love and hate that about him.
That said, he might move his 1920 Morgan to the head of the line now
Originally posted by: mr1874 dcarr:But I had not ever considered a "1964" Morgan.
The time is now to consider,Mr. Carr.
Which is why I suggested a 1965 to him. But, like a true artist, he follows his own path instead of what's "trendy". I both love and hate that about him.
That said, he might move his 1920 Morgan to the head of the line now
Did anyone ever consider that since both Morgan and Peace dollars circulated during the early 1960's, that the US Mint may have come up with a novel idea of issuing 1964-D Peace Dollars from Denver AND 1964 Morgan Dollars from Philadelphia??? Maybe the plan to mint 1964 Philly Morgans was scrapped after the 1962-1964 Treasury release of $1000.00 Morgan bags satisfied demand in the eastern part of the country.
Did anyone ever consider that since both Morgan and Peace dollars circulated during the early 1960's, that the US Mint may have come up with a novel idea of issuing 1964-D Peace Dollars from Denver AND 1964 Morgan Dollars from Philadelphia??? Maybe the plan to mint 1964 Philly Morgans was scrapped after the 1962-1964 Treasury release of $1000.00 Morgan bags satisfied demand in the eastern part of the country.
The Treasury thought that a mere 45,000,000 coins of either design would be hoarded because of the perceived low mintage, so it was always going to be one design from one mint.
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Originally posted by: PRIZ430 Did anyone ever consider that since both Morgan and Peace dollars circulated during the early 1960's, that the US Mint may have come up with a novel idea of issuing 1964-D Peace Dollars from Denver AND 1964 Morgan Dollars from Philadelphia??? Maybe the plan to mint 1964 Philly Morgans was scrapped after the 1962-1964 Treasury release of $1000.00 Morgan bags satisfied demand in the eastern part of the country.
Actually, demand for silver dollars (of any design) increased as Treasury stocks were depleted, which is why an additional mintage was proposed. By 1964-65 the price of silver had risen to the point that silver dollars were worth face value. I doubt that collector preferences had any influence on which design to adopt, since anti-collector sentiment was running high in Washington at the time (hence the elimination of mintmarks and the discontinuance of proof sets).
I never understood (and still don't) why they didn't strike 1965 Peace dollars in 40% silver. Those would have actually circulated.
Originally posted by: RichieURich Here's a real winner of an idea: strike 12,000 uncirculated and 880 proof 1964 Morgan dollars, same mintage as the 1895.
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Check out the separate thread from one of the four horsemen (Q. David Bowers, John Dannreuther, David Sundman and Dennis Tucker .."Dentuck") who actually saw the source of the photo shown in OP's original posted link. Suffice it to say, what you see isn't what you think you see.
The thread is titled, "The 1964 Morgan Dollar Discovery."
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Originally posted by: dcarr PS: You can get that verdigris off the "5" using photo-shop
I considered that, but I'm afraid it might interrupt the Monster Natural Rainbow Toning that the coin has somehow acquired since I took the picture three days ago.
Originally posted by: dcarr Also, check the reverse hub type. If it is a C3, or if it has a micro-o, then you have one of the 1902-O "privately-made" vintage counterfeits.
Nope, it's genuine. I know because a cousin says he inherited it from his grandfather, who bought it at a bargain price during a trip to the far east and had it authenticated by the guy who sold it to him.
Originally posted by: lkeigwin Hey Daniel...let's put on hold your plan to release overstruck 1964 Morgans, okay? Lance.
I have considered a "1920" fantasy-date over-strike Morgan Dollar. But I had not ever considered a "1964" Morgan.
A 2021-D Morgan will be fun in a few years though... overstruck on a 1921-D Morgan of course.
Neat idea. I was already planning to do pieces for the centennial of the last Morgan and the first Peace dollars. I had in mind to use this format, but in a 50mm 2-troy-oz size:
Those three pieces are true works of art. A two ounce version with replicas of the Morgan and Peace dollar designs would be fantastic! I want several of each!
Hey Daniel...let's put on hold your plan to release overstruck 1964 Morgans, okay?
Lance.
I have considered a "1920" fantasy-date over-strike Morgan Dollar.
But I had not ever considered a "1964" Morgan.
A 2021-D Morgan will be fun in a few years though... overstruck on a 1921-D Morgan of course.
Neat idea. I was already planning to do pieces for the centennial of the last Morgan and the first Peace dollars. I had in mind to use this format, but in a 50mm 2-troy-oz size:
Those three pieces are true works of art. A two ounce version with replicas of the Morgan and Peace dollar designs would be fantastic! I want several of each!
Yes, the designs are works of art. It would have been nice if credit had been given to the actual artists.
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...you cheated Cap't!...lol...I pressed the refresh button for 15 min waiting to hit a hundo! lol again
Sounds like they have hardware but no coins.
Make some coins!
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
Lance.
The US Mint should hire me to make some from those galvanos/hubs/dies.
If they were struck over genuine coins, that might allow the Mint to make them without requiring Congressional approval (since they would only be altering coins that were already issued with the same design, and not issuing entirely new coins which requires an act of Congress).
If the mint wants to do something really cool they could use what they found to create a 2021 Peace dollar commemorative. I'd buy that even if they made it of unobtanium.
They could make a set in 2021 which includes 2021-dated Morgan & Peace dollars, plus 1964-dated Morgan & Peace Dollars struck from those original dies. They could probably sell 100,000+ of those sets.
Wow.
The US Mint should hire me to make some from those galvanos/hubs/dies.
If they were struck over genuine coins, that might allow the Mint to make them without requiring Congressional approval (since they would only be altering coins that were already issued with the same design, and not issuing entirely new coins which requires an act of Congress).
Win
Win
mark
Fellas, leave the tight pants to the ladies. If I can count the coins in your pockets you better use them to call a tailor. Stay thirsty my friends......
same mintage as the 1895.
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- Set the date to the current date, because that's all they are legally allowed to do.
- Muck with the design until it's "sort of like" a Morgan dollar.
- Strike it in proof only gold, for a price that only 5% of collectors will pay.
In short....they'd do what they did with the Merc dime and SLQ quarter. Fans of the original Morgan will go, "Eh".....
Based on the photos of the galvano, the mint did a great job of making it look like a modern-day Chinese counterfeit.
That is exactly what I was thinking.
Gasparro had his moments, but he is not among the Mint's better sculptors/engravers.
2021 Morgan - Business Strike and Cameo Proof
2021 Peace - Business Strike and Matte Proof
Price - $229.99 a set, HHL of 2, mintage of 100K
Real dollars, not medals or dual dated commems. Perhaps make them .999 to help with the legislation?
I can dream can't I?
US Mint - If you're reading, that's $23M gross on one product! (you're welcome)
The time is now to consider,Mr. Carr.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
Wow.
The US Mint should hire me to make some from those galvanos/hubs/dies.
If they were struck over genuine coins, that might allow the Mint to make them without requiring Congressional approval (since they would only be altering coins that were already issued with the same design, and not issuing entirely new coins which requires an act of Congress).
Win
Win
mark
Wow.
The US Mint should hire me to make some from those galvanos/hubs/dies.
If they were struck over genuine coins, that might allow the Mint to make them without requiring Congressional approval (since they would only be altering coins that were already issued with the same design, and not issuing entirely new coins which requires an act of Congress).
Win
Win
mark
Wow.
The US Mint should hire me to make some from those galvanos/hubs/dies.
If they were struck over genuine coins, that might allow the Mint to make them without requiring Congressional approval (since they would only be altering coins that were already issued with the same design, and not issuing entirely new coins which requires an act of Congress).
Yes they should, and make a documentary about the Morgan history and then you making these dollars, including the entire process.
You do not get enough credit for the artist that you are, at least around here.
dcarr:But I had not ever considered a "1964" Morgan.
The time is now to consider,Mr. Carr.
Which is why I suggested a 1965 to him. But, like a true artist, he follows his own path instead of what's "trendy". I both love and hate that about him.
That said, he might move his 1920 Morgan to the head of the line now
dcarr:But I had not ever considered a "1964" Morgan.
The time is now to consider,Mr. Carr.
Which is why I suggested a 1965 to him. But, like a true artist, he follows his own path instead of what's "trendy". I both love and hate that about him.
That said, he might move his 1920 Morgan to the head of the line now
As more details come out, I may change my mind
Sounds like they have hardware but no coins.
Make some coins!
mark
Absolutely agree with this. Have no idea what the legal requirements would be to get it done.
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Did anyone ever consider that since both Morgan and Peace dollars circulated during the early 1960's, that the US Mint may have come up with a novel idea of issuing 1964-D Peace Dollars from Denver AND 1964 Morgan Dollars from Philadelphia??? Maybe the plan to mint 1964 Philly Morgans was scrapped after the 1962-1964 Treasury release of $1000.00 Morgan bags satisfied demand in the eastern part of the country.
The Treasury thought that a mere 45,000,000 coins of either design would be hoarded because of the perceived low mintage, so it was always going to be one design from one mint.
Did anyone ever consider that since both Morgan and Peace dollars circulated during the early 1960's, that the US Mint may have come up with a novel idea of issuing 1964-D Peace Dollars from Denver AND 1964 Morgan Dollars from Philadelphia??? Maybe the plan to mint 1964 Philly Morgans was scrapped after the 1962-1964 Treasury release of $1000.00 Morgan bags satisfied demand in the eastern part of the country.
Actually, demand for silver dollars (of any design) increased as Treasury stocks were depleted, which is why an additional mintage was proposed. By 1964-65 the price of silver had risen to the point that silver dollars were worth face value. I doubt that collector preferences had any influence on which design to adopt, since anti-collector sentiment was running high in Washington at the time (hence the elimination of mintmarks and the discontinuance of proof sets).
I never understood (and still don't) why they didn't strike 1965 Peace dollars in 40% silver. Those would have actually circulated.
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Here's a real winner of an idea: strike 12,000 uncirculated and 880 proof 1964 Morgan dollars,
same mintage as the 1895.
My YouTube Channel
The thread is titled, "The 1964 Morgan Dollar Discovery."
Darn, I thought I had the latest one.
PS: You can get that verdigris off the "5" using photo-shop
Also, check the reverse hub type. If it is a C3, or if it has a micro-o, then you have one of the 1902-O "privately-made" vintage counterfeits.
PS: You can get that verdigris off the "5" using photo-shop
I considered that, but I'm afraid it might interrupt the Monster Natural Rainbow Toning that the coin has somehow acquired since I took the picture three days ago.
Also, check the reverse hub type. If it is a C3, or if it has a micro-o, then you have one of the 1902-O "privately-made" vintage counterfeits.
Nope, it's genuine. I know because a cousin says he inherited it from his grandfather, who bought it at a bargain price during a trip to the far east and had it authenticated by the guy who sold it to him.
My Adolph A. Weinman signature
Hey Daniel...let's put on hold your plan to release overstruck 1964 Morgans, okay?
Lance.
I have considered a "1920" fantasy-date over-strike Morgan Dollar.
But I had not ever considered a "1964" Morgan.
A 2021-D Morgan will be fun in a few years though... overstruck on a 1921-D Morgan of course.
Neat idea. I was already planning to do pieces for the centennial of the last Morgan and the first Peace dollars. I had in mind to use this format, but in a 50mm 2-troy-oz size:
Those three pieces are true works of art. A two ounce version with replicas of the Morgan and Peace dollar designs would be fantastic! I want several of each!
Hey Daniel...let's put on hold your plan to release overstruck 1964 Morgans, okay?
Lance.
I have considered a "1920" fantasy-date over-strike Morgan Dollar.
But I had not ever considered a "1964" Morgan.
A 2021-D Morgan will be fun in a few years though... overstruck on a 1921-D Morgan of course.
Neat idea. I was already planning to do pieces for the centennial of the last Morgan and the first Peace dollars. I had in mind to use this format, but in a 50mm 2-troy-oz size:
Those three pieces are true works of art. A two ounce version with replicas of the Morgan and Peace dollar designs would be fantastic! I want several of each!
Yes, the designs are works of art. It would have been nice if credit had been given to the actual artists.