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Does this SGC 1972 Dr. J rookie have a chance to cross evenly to PSA? - New scan added

ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭
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Picked up a card tonight that I've wanted for a while, and had a question for the members here. Does this card have a chance to get into a PSA 7 holder? If not by crossover, maybe by crack and sub. Corner wear is hard to see in this picture so I will post a better scan later in the week when I have it in hand, but I wanted to get some early ideas.



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    MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭
    Centering definitely, corners...not sure but probably. It definitely has a chance.
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    heritageheritage Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭
    I think it has a chance good luck with it.
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    bobmoatbobmoat Posts: 257 ✭✭
    That's a weird scanner
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    HighGradeLegendsHighGradeLegends Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭✭
    Please let us know the results!
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    ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭
    The centering was obviously the big selling point for me, but I also like how light the white circle near his elbow is.
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    DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,220 ✭✭
    The top two corners don't look like they will make the cut for a PSA 7. However, it may be the scan. Best of luck with whatever you do.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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    ThoseBackPagesThoseBackPages Posts: 4,871 ✭✭
    I'd say no, based on it being in a current SGC slab.
    Big Fan of: HOF Post War RC, Graded RCs
    WTB: PSA 1 - PSA 3 Centered, High Eye Appeal 1950's Mantle
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    BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think the 2 top corners make it a 6.
    Daniel
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    Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,537 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like your odds better in the SGC slab.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
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    craig44craig44 Posts: 10,670 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it has a chance, but only if you crack first.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

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    VictorLaszloVictorLaszlo Posts: 101
    Originally posted by: Dboneesq

    The top two corners don't look like they will make the cut for a PSA 7. However, it may be the scan. Best of luck with whatever you do.




    +1



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    brad31brad31 Posts: 2,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Dboneesq
    The top two corners don't look like they will make the cut for a PSA 7. However, it may be the scan. Best of luck with whatever you do.


    Is there a feeling SGC has become more lenient over time? I only purchased three cards in the new holder but they have all seemed strong for their grade. It seems like SGC has waned in popularity but it has not seemed to me that their criteria is different old holder vs. new holder. Is it a common perception they have?
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    bobmoatbobmoat Posts: 257 ✭✭
    They are pretty much a basement operation at this point
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    VictorLaszloVictorLaszlo Posts: 101
    Originally posted by: brad31

    Originally posted by: Dboneesq

    The top two corners don't look like they will make the cut for a PSA 7. However, it may be the scan. Best of luck with whatever you do.




    Is there a feeling SGC has become more lenient over time? I only purchased three cards in the new holder but they have all seemed strong for their grade. It seems like SGC has waned in popularity but it has not seemed to me that their criteria is different old holder vs. new holder. Is it a common perception they have?






    Some strong for the grade, some not. All through their history. Same as PSA in that strong/not strong for the grade shtick, just on a smaller scale.

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    brad31brad31 Posts: 2,591 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: ThoseBackPages
    I'd say no, based on it being in a current SGC slab.


    My question meant to quote this not the post I quoted. This is why I should not post from my phone.
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    RookieHOFersRookieHOFers Posts: 733 ✭✭✭
    It's a beautiful card, centering is really nice. I think it depends on those corners. At first look, I think it gets a 6.5. I wouldn't think it was out of place at all in a 7 holder though, I just feel like PSA has gotten really tough on their trading.
    Matt
    I collect: 80’s Rookies and 86 Fleer Basketball
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    BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Z, I think you have a good chance to cross, but you'll need to crack out the Dr J. I have a 7 that is similar to yours minus the fish eye below elbow.

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    CakesCakes Posts: 3,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a tough call, PSA can be extremely tough on this card. You might have to crack and submit multiple times but even then I just don't see it in a PSA 7 holder. IMHO it looks like a PSA 6, it's still a nice card but those corners probably keep it out of a PSA 7. Good luck.
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    sushihotwingssushihotwings Posts: 452 ✭✭✭
    I love the card and it is on my wish list. Congratulations. I would just leave it in the card holder and enjoy it. Top corners a touch soft probably going to hold it back from a crossover.
    On the hunt high grade Star Basketball.
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    ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭
    I still don't have it in hand, but when I do i will scan it properly, and we can all (myself included) see how those corners are. Once in hand, if I don't think they are strong enough to cross, I will obviously leave it in it's current holder.
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    Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭✭
    From what I can see all four corners have issues.

    I am thinking no go on the NM cross.

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    ZTargZTarg Posts: 497 ✭✭✭
    I definitely need a better scanner with a CCD, but now that I have it in hand I was able to scan it flat (not on an angle like the seller did). All the corners show light wear/touches, but comparable to many PSA 7s I have of cards from the same era.



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    MrHockeyMrHockey Posts: 555 ✭✭✭
    Unlikely.
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    JBrulesJBrules Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You might get a PSA 7 with a crack out (but unlikely based on the corners). I would say 6 - 6.5 on straight crossover. Love the centering on that card.
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    TheMick6TheMick6 Posts: 582
    I think PSA is getting stingy on crossing big rookies. I don't have an opinion because I can't really see the corners. The rest of the card looks like a 7 to me.
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    DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,220 ✭✭
    Not the best scan, but those top two corners still look weak to me.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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    ldfergldferg Posts: 6,739 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: JBrules
    You might get a PSA 7 with a crack out (but unlikely based on the corners). I would say 6 - 6.5 on straight crossover. Love the centering on that card.


    +1


    Thanks,

    David (LD_Ferg)



    1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
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    CakesCakes Posts: 3,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TheMick6
    I think PSA is getting stingy on crossing big rookies. I don't have an opinion because I can't really see the corners. The rest of the card looks like a 7 to me.


    I agree

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