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1984 O-Pee-Chee Baseball Rack Packs

Are these rare? I couldn't find too much information about them except a completed listing on ebay that had this:

"This auction is for the scarce 51 card rak pak shown which debate has, may have never been officially released to the public. I was offered several of these in the early 1990's which I have hung onto but have received little information on over the years. About twenty years ago I contacted Mark Murphy, known as the baseball card kid, the number one unopened pack specialist in the hobby at the time, and even he knew nothing about these. They are 1984 O-Pee-Chee brand cards ,released in Canada and printed in both English and French. They were placed in three individual cellophane sleeves that could not be searched, and then put into the rak pak wrapper which were the same exact wrappers that OPC used for their hockey rack packs that they released in 1982, which were also very rare. Another industry expert suggested to me that 1984 was a highly produced set and to in trying to push the abundance of cards to customers these rak paks were made as a prototype / test issue type suggestion that never took off. Anyone with knowledge of these , please let me know. I have never seen another listed on eBay other than the several I have out on here myself."

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  • Gemyanks10Gemyanks10 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭
    I am a huge 1984 O Pee Chee baseball card collector...graded and unopened and would love to know a true knowledgeable answer to this. I have never seen these before, and I thank you for posting this. The only "racks" I know of are 1980 O Pee Chee 4 pack wax racks...if these are real and "backdoored", you may really have something here....Tom, Tim, anyone?

    Edited to say I'm an OPC baseball collector in general, all years, but have still never seen these.
    Always looking for OPC "tape intact" baseball wax boxes, and 1984 OPC baseball PSA 10's for my set. Please PM or email me if you have any available.
  • maddux69maddux69 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have yet to see any, but I would really question the 1982 copyright.
  • Gemyanks10Gemyanks10 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: maddux69
    I have yet to see any, but I would really question the 1982 copyright.


    That's a good observation, but is it possible that OPC reused old unused materials? Kind of like Topps in 1985 where they used 1981 leftover boxes? Just a thought.

    Always looking for OPC "tape intact" baseball wax boxes, and 1984 OPC baseball PSA 10's for my set. Please PM or email me if you have any available.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hiya guys



    There was a discussion about these a while back.



    LINK.



    ST auction sale - went for over 100 bucks.



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  • maddux69maddux69 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Repackaging doesn't surprise me from for our neighbors up North. I bought this box of 1991 OPC a few years ago, seems like glorified resealed. If anybody knows it would be Tom from his countless buying trips.



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  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    If anybody knows it would be Tom from his countless buying trips.





    Agree Jason - if anyone has a question - he's the man - I like his website.
    Mike
  • LittletweedLittletweed Posts: 623 ✭✭✭
    Thanks for that thread Mike!

    I bought a lot of 4 of them because I had not seen them before, and while the Ryan and Smith packs are cool, this was the one I was most interested in:

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  • maddux69maddux69 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Stone193

    If anybody knows it would be Tom from his countless buying trips.





    Agree Jason - if anyone has a question - he's the man - I like his website.




    Mike, I didn't see your link until after I posted and true to form Tom came in to save the day! image
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's sweet Matt!



    Like I said - back in 2014, someone paid over 100 bucks for Matty on the front and not centered nice like yours.



    Congratulations on a really nice pickup.
    Mike
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OPC did produce racks in 1984 on a limited basis. The outer box also looks a bit different from the Topps version with Canadian print.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is the outer box OPC used for their rack packs~this one is for a hockey rack box but card count and packaging are the same as the 84 baseball racks. OPC changed the card count for racks to 51 cards in 1982 (from 57 the year before) which is why the copyright date on the 1984 OPC baseball racks is 1982 as they redesigned the packaging to accommodate that change in card count.



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    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • pjb103183pjb103183 Posts: 1,330 ✭✭✭
    Ive had a few of these over the past 20 years, but they dont surface too often
  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,493 ✭✭✭✭
    I've owned this for at least 25 years now



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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting topic. It seems a bit suspicious that as infrequently as we see these racks that such a big percentage seem to have stars/rookies showing on top.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • JWBlueJWBlue Posts: 489 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: craig44
    Interesting topic. It seems a bit suspicious that as infrequently as we see these racks that such a big percentage seem to have stars/rookies showing on top.


    Is it possible to open these racks and reseal them and have them look unopened? How do they do it?
  • travis ttravis t Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭
    The likelihood of a star/rookie on top increases by 50% since there are half the number of cards in the OPC set vs. Topps.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,727 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: travis t

    The likelihood of a star/rookie on top increases by 50% since there are half the number of cards in the OPC set vs. Topps.




    +1



    It is also just as likely that those packs with stars on top were saved by collectors at a higher percentage rate over the years, as well. The sample size in this thread is not significant enough to make that assessment, in any case.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Gemyanks10Gemyanks10 Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭
    Man, knowing that these are legit makes me want to pick some up...added a new saved search to my eBay lol...these are awesome and can't believe I didn't know about them, but I'm glad I found out!
    Always looking for OPC "tape intact" baseball wax boxes, and 1984 OPC baseball PSA 10's for my set. Please PM or email me if you have any available.
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: grote15

    Originally posted by: travis t

    The likelihood of a star/rookie on top increases by 50% since there are half the number of cards in the OPC set vs. Topps.




    +1



    It is also just as likely that those packs with stars on top were saved by collectors at a higher percentage rate over the years, as well. The sample size in this thread is not significant enough to make that assessment, in any case.




    +1



    Mike
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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good point on the set being half the size of topps. Didn't take that into account. Grote is also right that many star packs were probably saved. Seems legit taking that into account.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • NJ80sBBCNJ80sBBC Posts: 746 ✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Littletweed

    Thanks for that thread Mike!



    I bought a lot of 4 of them because I had not seen them before, and while the Ryan and Smith packs are cool, this was the one I was most interested in:



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    I have been a bit more focused on OPC unopened of late. All wax, never ran across racks! This one is awesome, can't imagine that there are many out there with the big two from '84 on top.
    Conundrum - Loving my unopened baseball card collection....but really like ripping too
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