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This is why you attend the National...

The National is a great place to meet new contacts and friends. I was able to locate these two items from a long time Pittsburgh collector. These are items you cannot find on ebay and that's what's great about the National. The first item is a Troy Polamalu Super Bowl locker room name plate. The second item is a Steelers check made out to Lynn Swann for his winning share of Super Bowl 10. The back is endorsed by Swann and he also added his middle initial.

Now my thoughts on the National. I arrived on Wednesday and left Saturday morning. I noticed a large amount of 1986 Fleer Jordan rookies. I went to the National wanting to buy one but given how many I saw it was a big turn off. There must have been around 250 hundred of them and most were overpriced. If I was looking for a Jordan rookie I would await since it appears the market has been saturated with them since the recent bump. The high dollar rookies cards from the 50's-60's were moving very slow again due to the recent bump in price. I noticed PSA grades in 4-6 were moving but the 7-9's were not. It appears collectors like myself have a hard time justifying paying 3 x the price for these cards in just the last 8-10 months. Again this is just my observation and would like to hear what others have to say.




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  • HighGradeLegendsHighGradeLegends Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭✭
    Very cool ty for sharing
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: BIGBEN7



    I noticed a large amount of 1986 Fleer Jordan rookies. I went to the National wanting to buy one but given how many I saw it was a big turn off.











    I agree it was a big turnoff (I saw them in Bounce's thread). As a buyer, though, I have to remind myself that a card like that is like walking into a jewelry store for a diamond. There may be 20 1 carat ones to choose from, but they are not all equal.
  • gregmo32gregmo32 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭
    I agree with your thoughts on the show. Prices were very high for the good vintage stuff.

    As a basketball collector, I feel I missed out by not getting there until Saturday. Almost all of the only quality vintage basketball left today was not in the range I would consider buying.

    Somehow I still bought a bunch, including some oddball items I did well on, and a complete vintage basketball set for a reasonable price.
    PSA got most of my money that I spent at the show.

    I will go back tomorrow, to pick up a few from PSA and drop off a bunch to the consignment folks.

    I am buying and trading for RC's of Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan, Bill Russell, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Bob Cousy!
    Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
  • baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭
    That check is great.

    Congrats
    Fred

    collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.

    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started

  • 49ersGuy49ersGuy Posts: 382 ✭✭
    Originally posted by: BIGBEN7
    I arrived on Wednesday and left Saturday morning. I noticed a large amount of 1986 Fleer Jordan rookies.


    The interesting aspect is you can probably determine just who are the ones in the "investor groups" that have been buying up all the Jordan's in the recent year by going around the national and seeing things like this...

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  • JWBlueJWBlue Posts: 489 ✭✭✭
    I am not sure I understand the agenda of the investor group. Cornering the market only makes the cards unaffordable to just about anyone.

    Would there even be enough buyers to pay the high prices for the cards? We are talking about about sports cards. Not a necessity of life.
  • sushihotwingssushihotwings Posts: 452 ✭✭✭
    I don't know why anyone would display 100+ Jordan's at one time other than to show off. Bad sales technique. It does give a potential buyer hesitation. At least me. I want to feel like I am getting something special or difficult to locate when I buy. Not a commodity and certainly not 1 of hundreds right before my very eyes.
    On the hunt high grade Star Basketball.
  • BPorter26BPorter26 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Joe.... That is one sweet check. The best part for me is not Swann's Auto but you have the Chiefs auto Art Rooney. Awesome pickup




    I don't know why anyone would display 100+ Jordan's at one time other than to show off. Bad sales technique. It does give a potential buyer hesitation. At least me. I want to feel like I am getting something special or difficult to locate when I buy. Not a commodity and certainly not 1 of hundreds right before my very eyes.


    I totally agree with you that is absolutely bad business practice. Why show 100's of MJ's in your case? He should have just listed one for each grade.
    "EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE ON THE WALL" - JACKIE MOON
  • BatpigBatpig Posts: 460 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: sushihotwings

    I don't know why anyone would display 100+ Jordan's at one time other than to show off. Bad sales technique. It does give a potential buyer hesitation. At least me. I want to feel like I am getting something special or difficult to locate when I buy. Not a commodity and certainly not 1 of hundreds right before my very eyes.




    Agree 100%. Makes no sense.



  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Two unique and quality items to pick up!



    Congratulations Joe.



    And for me - both pieces have an historical perspective that I enjoy. image
    Mike
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: sushihotwings

    I don't know why anyone would display 100+ Jordan's at one time other than to show off. Bad sales technique. It does give a potential buyer hesitation. At least me. I want to feel like I am getting something special or difficult to locate when I buy. Not a commodity and certainly not 1 of hundreds right before my very eyes.




    While I agree from a marketing perspective - as a buyer I can find a "plus" in this.



    If I were in the market for an 8 or 9? The good news is I get to look over a mess of cards and find "the" best one for the grade - as we all know - not all 8s or 9s are created equal.



    Next would be the "negotiation" if one feels they're overpriced. While I might agree the seller may be "showing off?" They have to pay for the space and the sale would be nice?
    Mike
  • ElvisPElvisP Posts: 1,066 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: Batpig
    Originally posted by: sushihotwings
    I don't know why anyone would display 100+ Jordan's at one time other than to show off. Bad sales technique. It does give a potential buyer hesitation. At least me. I want to feel like I am getting something special or difficult to locate when I buy. Not a commodity and certainly not 1 of hundreds right before my very eyes.


    Agree 100%. Makes no sense.



    We all knew the Jordan's were not rare and overpriced. Recent sales have seen the prices drop significantly. After a high of $45,000 for a PSA 10 the most recent one sold for $28,700. After a high of $8,200 for a PSA 9 recent sales have been as low as $5,100. These are from VCP. See no reason for the trend not to continue downward.
  • BIGBEN7BIGBEN7 Posts: 394 ✭✭
    I now have regrets not buying the 1991-1992 Barry Bonds game used bat. The bat was hammered but overpriced. It will be hard to find another one that looks as good as that one did. Should have paid the extra $500.
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