I have mentioned before that I collected as a kid from pocket change from 1963 through the late 70's. I filled Whitman Albums with both silver and clad. I also set aside additional clad dimes, quarters, half dollars and even IKE's and a roll of 1979D SBA dollars. Still have many of these coins.
I take a look at the coins every once in a while and enjoy seeing early date clads (some MS and some AU and EF) that were saved early on. Some of these coins look pretty good and are much more attractive (with higher relief devices and fields with deeper basins that the current flat, shallow and spaghgetti string hair coins that are made today).
I never thought I'd say it back in the day but a lot of these early dates in higher grades are handsome. A nicely struck 1969 with just light wear always seems to have a tail to tell.
One of the rolls I looked at today had the first nine coins on the end all later issues and a total of 32 late issues in the roll. More and more recently I'm seeing the older states coins with significant wear. There's a Georgia in this batch in low end VF.
The quarters in circulation are getting even more fascinating than a few years ago. The dimes are pretty interesting as well. A lot of the early dates aren't seen often but when they are XF's aren't that tough. It seems the attrition on dimes must be a lot higher but a few can sit out of circulation for decades.
One of these days I should start a "from circulation" nickel collection. I used to put a lot of effort searching these back in the '70's but hardly glance at them since except those in my pocket change. There might be some big surprises.
To answer the original question.....NEVER. These clad coins will never be hard to get or find as a date and mintmark. High grades such as 65 and higher are probably a different story. The reason is as cladking has stated........nobody cared and not that many (that we know of) were saved. I will be very surprised if they ever get that popular because they are just not that neat to collect. Collecting coins that were made by the billions are just not that desirable. I guess time will tell.
I will be very surprised if they ever get that popular because they are just not that neat to collect. Collecting coins that were made by the billions are just not that desirable. I guess time will tell.
it would be hard to understand how any of these will ever be rare in the strict sense so the best approach to collecting them is probably thinking of Conditional Rarity, buy the best/highest graded coins and hold them. some dates are hard to find really nice, especially 1982-83. I know a guy who has an absolute Gem tubed roll of 1983-D Quarters I'd like to get my hands on.
To me rare is less than 100 known, maybe less than 75.
for most applications, R5 as established by Sheldon is where the word "Rare" first appears and that's where I start applying it to describe anything. lots of times it gets confusing because of terms like Mintage and Extant. I purchased an 1882 Proof 3cn last week that has a known mintage of about 3,100 pcs. and who knows how many there are. I doubt it will be "Rare" anytime soon since the bulk of that number probably still exist. today I won a SC$ in a Stack's auction that's listed as an R6 and I think the extant number is on the lower end of that, but who really knows??
I just went out to ebay and searched for a 1969-P Quarter and found a nice 65.......so I wouldn't consider it rare if I can just go out and find one like that.
A 66 would probably be very hard to find and a 67 probably next to impossible.
But what would be wrong with a 1965-1999 set in PCGS65??
Im putting together a modern submission. Four clad quarters and a clad half so far.
I may not be a strong collector in moderns, but when I see a nice example I hold onto it. Also I do see demand for these dates in the shop. I may not have people asking for them daily or even every week, but people still want them for their sets.
A birth year set for me, 1986, is quite boring. And that is what is holding many YOUNG people from caring about these coins. What fun is a CLAD set that is not rare, will never be rare.
Im putting together a modern submission. Four clad quarters and a clad half so far.
I may not be a strong collector in moderns, but when I see a nice example I hold onto it.
Also I do see demand for these dates in the shop.
I may not have people asking for them daily or even every week, but people still want them for their sets.
A birth year set for me, 1986, is quite boring. And that is what is holding many YOUNG people from caring about these coins.
What fun is a CLAD set that is not rare, will never be rare.
'86 is a pretty neat year.
The mint started burnishing a lot of planchets in '85 but in was '86 before these got "common". This means that about 1% of 1986-P mint set quarters are just spectacular and often PL. The Denvers are nicer on average but the top coins aren't a lot easier to find. You can even find intact sets that are all Gems.
The '86 mint set packaging is very stable so far.
Other than Gems and PL's there's not a lot to look for in this date but the Gems tend to be among the nicest of the moderns.
"A 66 would probably be very hard to find and a 67 probably next to impossible."
And, my 1969 MS67+ (graded years ago when it was uncommon to get a 67+ grade and might have claims to an MS68 grade today) is unique in that grade after 33 years of hunting. I may not see it in my lifetime, but Justin could have a $25,000 - $35,000 coin whenever he gets around to selling it.
Just my 2 cents.
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"A 66 would probably be very hard to find and a 67 probably next to impossible."
And, my 1969 MS67+ (graded years ago when it was uncommon to get a 67+ grade and might have claims to an MS68 grade today) is unique in that grade after 33 years of hunting. I may not see it in my lifetime, but Justin could have a $25,000 - $35,000 coin whenever he gets around to selling it.
Just my 2 cents.
Frankly it seems the low price on a 67 '69 quarter now is related solely to the relative lack of sophisticated interest in clad quarters. There just aren't enough people collecting them to realize how tough this coin is in this grade and the undergrades as well. Nice attractive Gem '69 quarters are very few and very far between. Indeed, this is the date that I've been chasing hardest and longest. Since 1972 I have looked at every source I could find for nice choice examples and probably have a couple hundred of them, anyway. Most are just "gemmy" or what would grade MS-64 right now. There are few true Gems. I sought examples with nice full strikes and without any of the chicken scratches endemic to this date.
Despite how few nice choice coins will be available to future collectors as well as the relative lack of even MS-ugly coins or even nice XF's the date gets little attention.
People misapprehend this market. They believe that high mintages make it only about grade and mint sets but this simply isn't true. A lot of US sets are pretty easy in low grade or with unattractive coins but these sets are challenging even in low grade Gem and all but the 5C's and Ikes are pretty cheap in MS-65. The quarters are getting challenging even in nice VF. True Gem well struck '82-P quarters are virtually a stopper but they don't need good strikes to get high grades.
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I have mentioned before that I collected as a kid from pocket change from 1963 through the late 70's. I filled Whitman Albums with both silver and clad. I also set aside additional clad dimes, quarters, half dollars and even IKE's and a roll of 1979D SBA dollars. Still have many of these coins.
I take a look at the coins every once in a while and enjoy seeing early date clads (some MS and some AU and EF) that were saved early on. Some of these coins look pretty good and are much more attractive (with higher relief devices and fields with deeper basins that the current flat, shallow and spaghgetti string hair coins that are made today).
I never thought I'd say it back in the day but a lot of these early dates in higher grades are handsome. A nicely struck 1969 with just light wear always seems to have a tail to tell.
One of the rolls I looked at today had the first nine coins on the end all later issues and a total of 32 late issues in the roll. More and more recently I'm seeing the older states coins with significant wear. There's a Georgia in this batch in low end VF.
The quarters in circulation are getting even more fascinating than a few years ago. The dimes are pretty interesting as well. A lot of the early dates aren't seen often but when they are XF's aren't that tough. It seems the attrition on dimes must be a lot higher but a few can sit out of circulation for decades.
One of these days I should start a "from circulation" nickel collection. I used to put a lot of effort searching these back in the '70's but hardly glance at them since except those in my pocket change. There might be some big surprises.
I will be very surprised if they ever get that popular because they are just not that neat to collect. Collecting coins that were made by the billions are just not that desirable. I guess time will tell.
You've been right for over half a century now.
I doubt your luck will hold out.
How about sms coins with lower mintages?
I think some of them look nice and there're lots of different looks with these.
To me rare is less than 100 known, maybe less than 75.
for most applications, R5 as established by Sheldon is where the word "Rare" first appears and that's where I start applying it to describe anything. lots of times it gets confusing because of terms like Mintage and Extant. I purchased an 1882 Proof 3cn last week that has a known mintage of about 3,100 pcs. and who knows how many there are. I doubt it will be "Rare" anytime soon since the bulk of that number probably still exist. today I won a SC$ in a Stack's auction that's listed as an R6 and I think the extant number is on the lower end of that, but who really knows??
A 66 would probably be very hard to find and a 67 probably next to impossible.
But what would be wrong with a 1965-1999 set in PCGS65??
I may not be a strong collector in moderns, but when I see a nice example I hold onto it.
Also I do see demand for these dates in the shop.
I may not have people asking for them daily or even every week, but people still want them for their sets.
A birth year set for me, 1986, is quite boring. And that is what is holding many YOUNG people from caring about these coins.
What fun is a CLAD set that is not rare, will never be rare.
Im putting together a modern submission. Four clad quarters and a clad half so far.
I may not be a strong collector in moderns, but when I see a nice example I hold onto it.
Also I do see demand for these dates in the shop.
I may not have people asking for them daily or even every week, but people still want them for their sets.
A birth year set for me, 1986, is quite boring. And that is what is holding many YOUNG people from caring about these coins.
What fun is a CLAD set that is not rare, will never be rare.
'86 is a pretty neat year.
The mint started burnishing a lot of planchets in '85 but in was '86 before these got "common". This means that about 1% of 1986-P mint set quarters are just spectacular and often PL. The Denvers are nicer on average but the top coins aren't a lot easier to find. You can even find intact sets that are all Gems.
The '86 mint set packaging is very stable so far.
Other than Gems and PL's there's not a lot to look for in this date but the Gems tend to be among the nicest of the moderns.
And, my 1969 MS67+ (graded years ago when it was uncommon to get a 67+ grade and might have claims to an MS68 grade today) is unique in that grade after 33 years of hunting. I may not see it in my lifetime, but Justin could have a $25,000 - $35,000 coin whenever he gets around to selling it.
Just my 2 cents.
Wondercoin
"A 66 would probably be very hard to find and a 67 probably next to impossible."
And, my 1969 MS67+ (graded years ago when it was uncommon to get a 67+ grade and might have claims to an MS68 grade today) is unique in that grade after 33 years of hunting. I may not see it in my lifetime, but Justin could have a $25,000 - $35,000 coin whenever he gets around to selling it.
Just my 2 cents.
Frankly it seems the low price on a 67 '69 quarter now is related solely to the relative lack of sophisticated interest in clad quarters. There just aren't enough people collecting them to realize how tough this coin is in this grade and the undergrades as well. Nice attractive Gem '69 quarters are very few and very far between. Indeed, this is the date that I've been chasing hardest and longest. Since 1972 I have looked at every source I could find for nice choice examples and probably have a couple hundred of them, anyway. Most are just "gemmy" or what would grade MS-64 right now. There are few true Gems. I sought examples with nice full strikes and without any of the chicken scratches endemic to this date.
Despite how few nice choice coins will be available to future collectors as well as the relative lack of even MS-ugly coins or even nice XF's the date gets little attention.
People misapprehend this market. They believe that high mintages make it only about grade and mint sets but this simply isn't true. A lot of US sets are pretty easy in low grade or with unattractive coins but these sets are challenging even in low grade Gem and all but the 5C's and Ikes are pretty cheap in MS-65. The quarters are getting challenging even in nice VF. True Gem well struck '82-P quarters are virtually a stopper but they don't need good strikes to get high grades.