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What percentage of melt should be expected for sterling silver?

291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,948 ✭✭✭✭✭
I have heard that sterling (.925 fine silver) is being discounted fairly heavily. Is this true? If it is true, why?
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    cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,622 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Weight x spot x .925 x (.75 to .80) = $$$.

    Dealers will tell you the discount is due to refining costs.
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    jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My guy pays 78% on jewelry, and 82.5% on flatware.

    That's percentage of weight x spot, not .925 factored in:

    he makes 4% and that's with 5k oz at a time


    weight of scrap x spot x .78 or .825 X
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,565 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: jdimmick

    My guy pays 78% on jewelry, and 82.5% on flatware.



    That's percentage of weight x spot, not .925 factored in:



    he makes 4% and that's with 5k oz at a time





    weight of scrap x spot x .78 or .825 X




    The key is the 5,000 ounces at one time. When I was in the shop we accumulated sterling slowly, and probably only had enough to melt two or three times a year unless we happened to buy in a load of Franklin Mint (s)crap. A 4% profit margin is not enough to cover carrying cost and market risks if you have to sit on stuff for months.
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    biosolarbiosolar Posts: 164 ✭✭
    spot divided by 31.1 x .925 x .90(what refiner pays) x .85 = per gram price

    20.50 / 31.1 = .6591 x .925 = .6097 x .90 = 5487 x .85 = .46 a gram
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    cohodkcohodk Posts: 18,622 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: biosolar
    spot divided by 31.1 x .925 x .90(what refiner pays) x .85 = per gram price

    20.50 / 31.1 = .6591 x .925 = .6097 x .90 = 5487 x .85 = .46 a gram


    That's exactly what I wrote...yet seems so much more complicated. Lol

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,858 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Trust you get about as straight an answer around here than you will get anywhere.
    My figures were based on what a refinery (no names) pay me. And boy have I hated melting some of the sterling pieces over the years. image
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