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A somewhat rare and interesting coin that came across the counter yesterday.

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  • CertifiedGoldCoinsCertifiedGoldCoins Posts: 1,644 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: keets
    .... why does everyone have to be so negative?? and, strangely, it's the usual suspects....it is all so predictable. another ridiculous thing is that everyone seems to think they need to be made a party to every transaction, that for some reason they are entitled to know what a dealer pays for anything....I guess those are the sorts of things which made me stop posting in the past.

    If it's for sale, I'd tell them the RETAIL price, nothing more. I'd also suggest you simply ignore negative posts.
    As for this Topic, the first page was very interesting to me, as are many other Topics on which you have posted. Don't let the nattering nabobs of negativism violate your right to post on this board.
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  • WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,270 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would be curious as to whether the customer who brought the coin in had an ancestor or relative who was a member of the Western Reserve coin club.

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just ran across a NGC MS66 offered for $3,995.00 now. The insert says:

    1936 50C CLEVELAND COUNTERSTAMPED "1941 WESTERN RESERVE"

    Is this something PCGS would slab?
  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    neat item, thanks
    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • TreashuntTreashunt Posts: 6,747 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: keets
    Did you make an offer on the Pump?

    no we passed, and it isn't the first time someone has offered something like that!!

    on a related note, why does everyone have to be so negative?? and, strangely, it's the usual suspects. I think I could start a thread like this and sit back to wait about who will enter and post the comments about how Pawn Shops and Coin Shops only rip people off, never pay fairly and are a haven for stolen goods. it is all so predictable. another ridiculous thing is that everyone seems to think they need to be made a party to every transaction, that for some reason they are entitled to know what a dealer pays for anything.

    I guess those are the sorts of things which made me stop posting in the past.




    post away, I enjoy the story & history lesson
    Frank

    BHNC #203

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    her are some pictures of the three I have owned, I can't find a picture of the bottom one in the holder but it was graded MS66.



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  • coinhackcoinhack Posts: 1,173 ✭✭✭✭
    Keep on posting, Keets. I appreciate your stories, as do many others. Like coin show reports. Hearing little bits of information and interesting stories regarding coins that I would otherwise miss out on.

    Keep 'em coming.
  • jedmjedm Posts: 3,164 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: coinhack
    Keep on posting, Keets. I appreciate your stories, as do many others. Like coin show reports. Hearing little bits of information and interesting stories regarding coins that I would otherwise miss out on.

    Keep 'em coming.


    Heck Keets if we all try to please all the people all the time it would get really tiring wouldn't it?

    "I forgive you , you forgive me and we'll both go fishin' in heaven" J.P.
  • RPM2RPM2 Posts: 91 ✭✭✭

    Keets or anyone else, what do you think the value of the MS63 coin is worth today. I have been offered one in a PCGS 63

    Rob
  • BGBG Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm aware that this is an old thread. It went off tangent so let's get back to Keets original question was quantities, etc. of Western Reserve Counterstamps.

    In 1941 the Western Reserve Numismatic club in Cleveland applied counterstamp dies to the obverse and reverse of 100 specimens of 1936 Cleveland half dollars, in observation of the 20th anniversary of the collecting group, 1921-1941. These were immediately popular and caused interest whenever they were subsequently offered for sale. In 1971 the same organization celebrated the 50th anniversary and had a single counterstamp die made, with a portrait captioned MOSES CLEVELAND, forgetting that the founder of the city spelled his name as Cleaveland! Only a dozen or so 1936 Cleveland half dollars were stamped in 1971.

    1936 Cleveland--1971 Western Reverse Numismatic Club Counter-stamp. The Western Reverse Numismatic Club counter-stamped only 13 (or perhaps 20) Cleveland Half Dollars to celebrate its 50th anniversary.

    ". . . The primary focus of Brad’s (Brad Karoleff) talk concerned the Cleveland and Cincinnati issues, where he brought new information to light regarding the authorization and distribution of these issues. . . Courtesy of The Commemorative Trail; The Journal of the Society for U.S. Commemorative Coins, 1936 – 34 - $56.47, A Report on the SUSCC Meeting at the FUN Convention: January 9, 1993, by Charles D. Horning (R-0332, KY), Winter/Spring 1993, Volume 8 - #3, p. 29-30, 33.

    There are two interesting counterstamps for the Cleveland: the first for the 20th Anniversary of the Western Reserve Numismatic Club in 1941; the second in 1971 for the 50th Anniversary of the Club. The 1971 counterstamp is much rarer than the 1941. Brad noted that there was almost another Cleveland half dollar for President Grover Cleveland, but the bill did not gain Congressional approval.

    photo Grover_Cleveland_CoinA_1.jpg
    Edwin D. Mott sketch for Grover Cleveland half dollar for the Caldwell (NJ) Coin Club. Courtesy The Numismatist, May 1937, p.406.

    Courtesy of The Commemorative Trail; The Journal of the Society for U.S. Commemorative Coins, 1936 – 34 - $56.47, A Report on the SUSCC Meeting at the FUN Convention: January 9, 1993, by Charles D. Horning (R-0332, KY), Winter/Spring 1993, Volume 8 - #3, p. 29-30, 33.

    In 1941, 100 coins were counterstamped on both sides by the Western Reserve Numismatic Club to mark its 20th anniversary. The counterstamp on the obverse was with a small round die with General Cleaveland. The reverse counterstamp said 20th anniversary. In 1971, 15 coins were counterstamped by the Club to mark the 50th anniversary.” Courtesy of The Authoritative Reference on Commemorative Coins 1892 –1954, Kevin Flynn, published by Kyle Vick, 2008. p. 74.

    In 1941 the Western Reserve Numismatic club in Cleveland applied counterstamp dies to the obverse and reverse of 100 specimens of 1936 Cleveland half dollars, in observation of the 20th anniversary of the collecting group, 1921-1941. These were immediately popular and caused interest whenever they were subsequently offered for sale. In 1971 the same organization celebrated the 50th anniversary and had a single counterstamp die made, with a portrait captioned MOSES CLEVELAND, forgetting that the founder of the city spelled his name as Cleaveland! Only a dozen or so 1936 Cleveland half dollars were stamped in 1971. Courtesy of Commemorative Coins of the United States; A Complete Encyclopedia, Q. David Bowers. Published by Bowers and Merena Galleries, Inc., Box 1224, Wolfeboro, NH 03894, 1991, p. 338-340.

  • RPM2RPM2 Posts: 91 ✭✭✭

    I apologize for not mentioning that the coin being offered was a 1936 Cleveland Half Dollar Comm 1941 20th Anniversary Coin. Graded MS63 by PCGS. It was a long day at the show yesterday.

    Rob
  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So did the guy ever come back for the coin in the OP?

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  • ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 7, 2018 7:42AM

    @AL, keep up the great stories. "They" aren't officially trolls until you bless their remarks by responding to them.

    Any businessperson has the right say "proprietary" and slam the door politely. :s

    @tradedollarnut would like the GIA report on the diamond. >:) Just stirring the pot :#

    Interesting counterstamp - aren't there Stone Mountains "quasi-numismatically abused" too?

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  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited May 3, 2020 10:53PM

    Just ran across both pieces I posted a while back here.

    The last time I saw this specific piece was 7 years ago.

  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭

    well, it was almost four years ago but I seem to remember that it sold for around $37k.

  • jdimmickjdimmick Posts: 9,780 ✭✭✭✭✭

    One of the guys that bought my old shop (several years ago) bought a diamond for 5k from somebody needing cash in a hurry, sold it to the big west coast dealer(those who know, know whom Im talking about) for 110k. Set him on the road to riches from that moment forward . He is now a millionaire and then some .

  • topstuftopstuf Posts: 14,803 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @keets said:
    well, it was almost four years ago but I seem to remember that it sold for around $37k.

    I bet it was a GEM :D:D:D:D:D>:)

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