Is this an 1830 medium letters cent?

Vbowling299

Sorry to post like this, but bought this coin and it looks pretty close to the medium letters coinfacts example in terms of spacing.





Thanks for the education!

Andrew

LoveMyLiberty

It's hard to tell from small images that are at an angle,

but I would say no.

There is one variety for "medium" and some call them "small",

the N-6. Yours does not look like it.



Perhaps someone else will chime in.

Walkerguy21D

Looks like the N-8 to me, with the high '0' in the date, and the T and A in STATES nearly touching.

Still a nice wholesome example of a slightly better Middle Date large cent.

LoveMyLiberty

To clarify, the N-6 is quite elusive & sought after.

My reasons for thinking it not an N-6 are:



The 1 in the date is too far forward

The leaf under the F is too far right

The leaf at D is too low

The leaf at A2 is too far right

The leaf at E3 should be at the mid upright column



You may want to look at the examples in CoinFacts of

die marriages N-1 to N-5 & N-7 to N-11 of 1830 Large

Cents to see if any of those match your coin.

Walkerguy21D

You may want to look at the examples in CoinFacts of
die marriages N-1 to N-5 & N-7 to N-11 of 1830 Large
Cents to see if any of those match your coin.

With no inner circle or die breaks that I can see, most of these varieties can be quickly eliminated....

lkeigwin

No. It is not the N-6 medium letters.



This coin has been on my want list for years. Here is the G6 I hope to upgrade. If you look carefully you will see the difference.

Lance.

jedm

Lance's example shows the difference. I am curious to know if ONLY the N6 has the leaf tip slightly to the left under the "F" in OF? I know this is one of the markers, but not sure if it is unique to the N6.

LoveMyLiberty

The N-9, N-5 & the N-2 also have the leaf under the upright of the F

as in N-6.

jedm

Thank you LoveMYLiberty!

LoveMyLiberty

You are most welcome jedm.

rhedden

N-6 is a tough variety to locate in higher grades. I was able to pick up this circ. example with decent surfaces on eBay about 10 years ago, and it would cost an arm and a leg to get a better one.

LoveMyLiberty

Whoa ! XF-45 + ?

lkeigwin

Wow! Now that's what I'm talking about, rhedden.



I need one just like that for my Dansco.



Jealous,

Lance.

Vbowling299

Thank you all very much! I was hoping to see a few examples pictured and the markers, i saw the 's' in states shifted fully under the leaf and figured it matched but i'm glad to see all the diagnostics now!

EDIT: What do you believe the grade would be on something like this? I can grade the upper circ on these mid dates but am trying to get better on the mid grades.

Walkerguy21D

From the photos provided, and w/o getting into all the EAC grading nuances, the coin to me looks somewhere in the commercial XF45 to AU50 range.

Also, if you really plan getting into middle date large cents, I'd recommend you get a copy of one of the books on the series, like Noyes.

Enjoy!

ElKevvo

Nice coins! Thanks for sharing the info...I learned something today!



K

DaveWcoins

Originally posted by: rhedden

N-6 is a tough variety to locate in higher grades. I was able to pick up this circ. example with decent surfaces on eBay about 10 years ago, and it would cost an arm and a leg to get a better one.

Holy cow -- great coin Rhedden!