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  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,845 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for sharing it, harasha. Cool coin and featuring a pretty unique styled helmet, too.

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  • AndresAndres Posts: 977 ✭✭✭
    Would't mind some more info about this nice greek coin image
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  • harashaharasha Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1.26 grams and about 11 mm in diameter, the Mesembrian diobol was struck between the 4th and 3rd centuries BC.
    The spiked wheel of the reverse is a common motif.
    The helmet simply the Corinthinan helmet, head-on.
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  • AndresAndres Posts: 977 ✭✭✭
    Yours looks authentic , beautifull obol .Congrats
    I'm shocked there are so many fakes of these diobols around , made in Bulgaria in the 80's
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  • harashaharasha Posts: 3,113 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Distressing about the fakes. This coin was obtained from a very reputable vendor, so it has that going for it.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,760 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, these were widely faked in the "Black Sea Hoard".



    See commentary here.



    (Post #12 on the page, from "maridvnum", has some pictures of fakes.)



    Doug Smith (a fairly high-profile name) also posted there, in response to the OP coin in that coincommunity.com thread:



    These are the two types that made up the infamous Black Sea Hoard fakes. The fakes were so good that they fooled the major dealers until people started putting together the evidence. To this day, many of us are gun shy about buying these coins and I am less than 100% certain of my abilities to separate them. I am reasonably comfortable with your Mesembria and do not say the Apollonia is bad - I just can't say with what I see. I warn all to buy only from trusted sources and these types should only be bought from people who know more about this subject than I do.



    I own and cherish to this day an original mailing I received from a major dealer (you would recognize) offering one of each of these (but nicer) for $500. Shortly after that he ate a lot of crow and refunded a lot of money. I keep it to remember that we need not get to sure of ourselves but that ad might be worth more than the coins someday.






    None of which is to suggest that your coin is necessarily a fake. (I have no idea.)



    It's just a type that warrants extreme caution, is all.

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  • superpsychmdsuperpsychmd Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭
    You'll have to bring that one when you visit a coin club for show and tell
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,736 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And I too remember as these came out as they were very nice in appearance, almost too nice. I also have been just too weary of this and the Apollonia pieces and left them alone. Not to pirate the thread but I bought for very little over bullion a lovely late "Roman" miliarense from hand celated dies and hammerstruck. Balkan origins by recall, perhaps Bulgaria.
    I certainly don't feel qualified to distinguish real from fake on many, including this one.
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