Wax softening
VintagemanEd
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It seems the higher prices 70's wax is definitely soft now... I have put a few up here and one on eBay...... Looking for buyers on these is apparently tougher than it once was
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It must be a turvy day. Wait for topsy.
+1 for the advice
+1 for style
LaJoie Portrait 3+, Cy Young Bare Hand 3+
Ty Cobb Bat Off 4+, ANY Red & Green Portrait
I've got a lot of boxes I'd like to sell, but I got them at "good"prices and would rather hold than give them away or make a few bucks. It may mean I'm holding for another 10 years, if the bubble does burst, but I'm ok with that since I only buy what I like, and I only part with items I'm doubled up on or are realizing prices that I have to take advantage of for other needs/wants.
1973 BB Series 4 Wax - The Fritsch stash on these is still deep and bring bled-off a box at a time through collect auctions. Although your asking price is basically the last winning bid without BP.l, contents of series 4 is really what hurts these boxes (mccovey, perry and the ATGs if I recall correctly)
1975 BB Mini - still many of these in the market and notorious for awful centering (unless you know the case codes to look for from the case it came from....215351 has been a dog for those who have opened them). Asking price is fair but supply on these remains high enough that unless you list with PWCC or sell back to BBCE you are probably not going to sell it quickly.
1976 BB - 15 cent variety. Most desirable of what you listed but priced a little strong based on recent and historical public sales data.
1981 BB - anything post 1977 is a lot less rare than what people perceive.
Not trying to say that these are to be shunned, but the heavyweights already have plenty of these. Plus no
big HOF RCs in these that would set off a chase for high grade singles.
The excitement in the market is with things like 1970 wax, 1971 wax, 1973 wax (series 1,2,3,5 and all series),
1975 wax (regular) which remain elusive to many and contain some RCs that people dream if pulling from pack
(Schmidt, Blyleven, Munson, Fisk, Baker/Baylor)
Patience will ultimately serve you the best. Good luck with the effort.
Dave
Agree with Dave's assessment. The boxes you have listed for sale are rather plentiful in recent years, with the exception of the 76 box, but don't forget that many of these boxes have tripled or even quadrupled in value over the past few years and that the 4th series from 73 is also the least desirable series from that year. You've also only listed these boxes a few days ago. People are not clamoring to spend thousands of dollars at a pop, especially with the board slower than it once was.
I would say leveling out is a more accurate term than softening for the boxes you have listed. I also think the irrational speculation for some of these boxes has subsided a bit, which is a positive thing IMO for the longer term.
But +1 for getting your FS thread on the main forum.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Not another one....
+1 to this and like Tim said, kudos for spamming your BST thread in the main forum
On a completely unrelated note, I wonder why CU is dying.
Not another one....
+1 to this and like Tim said, kudos for spamming your BST thread in the main forum
On a completely unrelated note, I wonder why CU is dying.
The board usually gets slower in the summer. This is still a hobby for most of us, people walk away and come back later.
It must be a turvy day. Wait for topsy.
Thanks for that fine forensic analysis!!
Not soft but flat I guess.
An example I remember is 1979 Trays going for 150.00 and now they are like 90.00-100 now
But again there is still not much for sale to judge for the rest of the 70's.
But they all seem flat unless not from a scarce year like 1971 in my opinion.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I agree at 30.00 a pack 10 years ago it was a steal. But not to long ago people bought them at 150.00 . And at 90.00 at todays price that is'nt a steal.
It is a hobby and we all love unopened lets just agree on that.
I know the BBCE list price for 79 trays was $150 at one point, but that was for a relatively brief period of time. I believe the current list price for a 79 tray is $125 on the BBCE site. It's also important to note that the BBCE list price has typically always been a bit higher than ebay/retail pricing because you are buying from a trusted source.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
It seems the higher prices 70's wax is definitely soft now... I have put a few up here and one on eBay...... Looking for buyers on these is apparently tougher than it once was
the rapid increase in 76 boxes has forced a few out of closets in the last year or so. I sold one privately after having listed it for $6350 on the bay. After fees and PP--I was hoping to snag $5700. I sold it for just less -- it was the .15 variety. So rather than wait for top dollar I was happy to get a very good profit and move on. not sure what you have into your box--but maybe a very good profit is better than a record setting price
did the same with a 75 mini box. bought that for $750 at the end of the REA sell off and sold it privately to a board member for $2550. we were both happy at the end of the day
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Good info Flatfoot..... I am really thinking about sending all of my 70's wax to PWCC and just let the chips fall where they may!
If you do that, you will need to change your name to ModernmanEd!
I think many minds start to shift from a collection to an investment once you see prices take off the way it has happened. It is very hard to separate the two in my opinion.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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With the huge jump in prices with the 70s stuff I still do not see how the 60s product never followed. Is it because they have half the cards in each pack? I mean the population of unopened from the 60s is probably less than a 1/10 of what lasted from the 70s era. To me the 60s unopened has a better value but never took off in my opinion. I think people just want to be able to own a full box run with no breaks in it which is easier in 70s era and not that easy to go back into the 60s. Seems people are box collecting and not focusing on pack runs as much. But that is another discussion.
They don't need to be fed or bathed.
I would just sit on them for now if one is not happy with buy prices?
On the boards...
I'm waiting for Scumbi to return.
Great points.
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With the huge jump in prices with the 70s stuff I still do not see how the 60s product never followed. Is it because they have half the cards in each pack? I mean the population of unopened from the 60s is probably less than a 1/10 of what lasted from the 70s era. To me the 60s unopened has a better value but never took off in my opinion. I think people just want to be able to own a full box run with no breaks in it which is easier in 70s era and not that easy to go back into the 60s. Seems people are box collecting and not focusing on pack runs as much. But that is another discussion.
Significantly less availability of complete box 60s product gets offered in the market. It had already ramped up in price well before the 70s started moving. Plus the run up in HOFer star and RCs had not really started until just recently
Dave
I guess Im a buyer in 1960s and not 70s.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
I'd pay double for a "FASC" box than I would from the opposite.
I think part of it is also due to demographics~there are a lot of guys who are now in their 40s who grew up during the 1970s buying packs from that decade, who now have some disposable income and are looking to recapture that experience. I know that is a primary reason that I gravitated towards 1970s unopened product, as it was what I remembered collecting as a kid.
+1
My problem is the packs from 1974-76 are my favorites but scarce, not a ton of $$ to be made except some 1975's, but they bring back great memories.