Question on Die Clash terminology

dtwinn

I've found a 1943 Lincoln cent with what I believe may be a Type I counter die clash but I'm new to the whole world of die clashes so I was wondering if indeed this is what is considered a Type I counter die clash or ?

Thanks in advance

lkeigwin

Yes, I agree.



It is certainly clashing and it looks to be clash on top of clash. I'm no expert on these errors, though.



Here's a mock-up of a reverse with a fully clashed obverse.

Lance.

LoveMyLiberty

Good overlay.



Looking at several 1943 cents there are some examples of

the same thing, but with slight variations in positioning and

differences where the marks go through the C & down to the

N & some to the I then through the O of OF, but in different

directions. Seems odd.



The first coin, an MS-68, shown in CoinFacts shows a good

example of it, but shifted slightly.

roadrunner

See the 1886 Morgan dollar VAM 1C (3+2) that has a triple clash above a double clash on the right side reverse similar to the OP's Lincoln cent.



Vam World 1886 1c

stash

Originally posted by: stash
I think it's more of a Progressive Indirect Design Transfer .
Here's a 56-D I have .
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Here's an image of the OP coin

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messydesk

While I've never heard of a "Type I counter die clash," I can tell you what you have and don't have.



Your coin has design transfer from multiple die clashes near the C in CENT.



Your coin does not show a "counter-clash," which is when clash marks are transferred back to the original die during a multiple clash where the dies shifted relative to each other between clashes. On the reverse die, you'd see an additional outline from the C in CENT. On the obverse, you'd see an additional outline of Lincoln's lower hair and top rear of the coat. This can look a little like a doubled die, but isn't. Your coin may have this, since it the dies clashed multiple times with a shift between clashes, but I don't see it on the reverse.