I am not surprised by the price. If a comparatively easy to find 1986 Fleer BK box is fetching $35k and +, then what has to be the holy grail of BB wax boxes over the last 45 years (and maybe more) that comes up for sale infrequently sellin for double shouldn't come as a surprise. The market is flush these days. I am not one who likes to predict the top or bottom of the market, but prices for a lot of the higher end market in this hobby have seen incredible gains over the last 3 years.
Can you imagine if someone found a few unopened cases in an old collectors basement. I would think that 77000 wouldn't stand up very long
Unless you just released one into the market once every 6 months or so. If you stumbled across 2 cases, it would ended up being a pretty nice income each year for the next decade or so...
Originally posted by: craig44 Can you imagine if someone found a few unopened cases in an old collectors basement. I would think that 77000 wouldn't stand up very long
Unless you just released one into the market once every 6 months or so. If you stumbled across 2 cases, it would ended up being a pretty nice income each year for the next decade or so...
That would be a great way to do it however at least 3 or 4 board members would figure it out. It's tough to get past some of you, and thankfully so.
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Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
With the crazy numbers graded cards are commanding these days, nothing is surprising anymore.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Originally posted by: grote15 With the crazy numbers graded cards are commanding these days, nothing is surprising anymore.
True Tim but the thing though is that many high grade '71s aren't fetching the money they used to. For every Munson in PSA 8 doubling in value, there are three or four PSA 10 commons in the set that are selling for a fraction of what they used to. It was definitely more profitable to buy a '71 wax box 10 years ago for $10,000 or so and then sell PSA 10 commons for $1000+ and many PSA 9 commons for $100++ than today's equation.
With the crazy numbers graded cards are commanding these days, nothing is surprising anymore.
True Tim but the thing though is that many high grade '71s aren't fetching the money they used to. For every Munson in PSA 8 doubling in value, there are three or four PSA 10 commons in the set that are selling for a fraction of what they used to. It was definitely more profitable to buy a '71 wax box 10 years ago for $10,000 or so and then sell PSA 10 commons for $1000+ and many PSA 9 commons for $100++ than today's equation.
The value of this item is in its unopened form. The buyer would have to be crazy to open the packs.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
That would be a great way to do it however at least 3 or 4 board members would figure it out. It's tough to get past some of you, and thankfully so.
Only if they bought or know who bought said boxes. If they don't how do they know if the box was bought and then sold by same person 6m/12m later if all the boxes looked the same
I am not surprised. On another thread about this scarce wax box...I predicted it would sell for $77000 including buyer's premium. Just a guess...but I was very close.
Originally posted by: grote15 With the crazy numbers graded cards are commanding these days, nothing is surprising anymore.
True Tim but the thing though is that many high grade '71s aren't fetching the money they used to. For every Munson in PSA 8 doubling in value, there are three or four PSA 10 commons in the set that are selling for a fraction of what they used to. It was definitely more profitable to buy a '71 wax box 10 years ago for $10,000 or so and then sell PSA 10 commons for $1000+ and many PSA 9 commons for $100++ than today's equation.
The value of this item is in its unopened form. The buyer would have to be crazy to open the packs.
As usual, Tim is spot on in his statement! The scarcity of 1971 Wax Boxes is where the value of this item comes from. 240 series 4 cards (where the possible stars are Ryan, Aaron and Gibson) would never get you back to $77k even if EVERY card was submitted and came back as PSA 9! This box was not purchased to be opened (like was done by a certain MLB owner who shall remain nameless when he purchased several 1971 wax boxes a few years ago).
As usual, Tim is spot on in his statement! The scarcity of 1971 Wax Boxes is where the value of this item comes from. 240 series 4 cards (where the possible stars are Ryan, Aaron and Gibson) would never get you back to $77k even if EVERY card was submitted and came back as PSA 9! This box was not purchased to be opened (like was done by a certain MLB owner who shall remain nameless when he purchased several 1971 wax boxes a few years ago).
I guess it shouldn't surprise me because I would probably rip those boxes if $75K was a drop in the bucket for me, but how do we know he busted the boxes?!
It has absolutely nothing to do with the parts. More so that everyone needs it to complete their unopened run. And its an iconic year for Topps baseball cards.
If you wanted high grade cards, you could buy a completely graded set with a GPA of PSA 8, and have $30k or more to spare. This buy was not about the love of cards, obviously.
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George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Can you imagine if someone found a few unopened cases in an old collectors basement. I would think that 77000 wouldn't stand up very long
Unless you just released one into the market once every 6 months or so. If you stumbled across 2 cases, it would ended up being a pretty nice income each year for the next decade or so...
Can you imagine if someone found a few unopened cases in an old collectors basement. I would think that 77000 wouldn't stand up very long
Unless you just released one into the market once every 6 months or so. If you stumbled across 2 cases, it would ended up being a pretty nice income each year for the next decade or so...
That would be a great way to do it however at least 3 or 4 board members would figure it out. It's tough to get past some of you, and thankfully so.
Successful card BST transactions with cbcnow, brogurt, gstarling, Bravesfan 007, and rajah 424.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
With the crazy numbers graded cards are commanding these days, nothing is surprising anymore.
True Tim but the thing though is that many high grade '71s aren't fetching the money they used to. For every Munson in PSA 8 doubling in value, there are three or four PSA 10 commons in the set that are selling for a fraction of what they used to. It was definitely more profitable to buy a '71 wax box 10 years ago for $10,000 or so and then sell PSA 10 commons for $1000+ and many PSA 9 commons for $100++ than today's equation.
The whole is worth the sum of the all!!
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Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972
With the crazy numbers graded cards are commanding these days, nothing is surprising anymore.
True Tim but the thing though is that many high grade '71s aren't fetching the money they used to. For every Munson in PSA 8 doubling in value, there are three or four PSA 10 commons in the set that are selling for a fraction of what they used to. It was definitely more profitable to buy a '71 wax box 10 years ago for $10,000 or so and then sell PSA 10 commons for $1000+ and many PSA 9 commons for $100++ than today's equation.
The value of this item is in its unopened form. The buyer would have to be crazy to open the packs.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
That would be a great way to do it however at least 3 or 4 board members would figure it out. It's tough to get past some of you, and thankfully so.
Only if they bought or know who bought said boxes. If they don't how do they know if the box was bought and then sold by same person 6m/12m later if all the boxes looked the same
Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972
With the crazy numbers graded cards are commanding these days, nothing is surprising anymore.
True Tim but the thing though is that many high grade '71s aren't fetching the money they used to. For every Munson in PSA 8 doubling in value, there are three or four PSA 10 commons in the set that are selling for a fraction of what they used to. It was definitely more profitable to buy a '71 wax box 10 years ago for $10,000 or so and then sell PSA 10 commons for $1000+ and many PSA 9 commons for $100++ than today's equation.
The value of this item is in its unopened form. The buyer would have to be crazy to open the packs.
As usual, Tim is spot on in his statement! The scarcity of 1971 Wax Boxes is where the value of this item comes from. 240 series 4 cards (where the possible stars are Ryan, Aaron and Gibson) would never get you back to $77k even if EVERY card
was submitted and came back as PSA 9! This box was not purchased to be opened (like was done by a certain MLB owner who shall remain nameless when he purchased several 1971 wax boxes a few years ago).
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was submitted and came back as PSA 9! This box was not purchased to be opened (like was done by a certain MLB owner who shall remain nameless when he purchased several 1971 wax boxes a few years ago).
I guess it shouldn't surprise me because I would probably rip those boxes if $75K was a drop in the bucket for me, but how do we know he busted the boxes?!
How is nobody talking about this 1971 BB wax box sale!!??
77,000.00
About 3250.00 a pack!!!
Or 325.00 a card!!
That is insane!!
AMAZING!!
Derek, it's actually only $3,236.46 per pack and $323.64 per card which is a much better deal than the prices you cited