Does this obsolete note look odd?

gsalex

I didn't bid on this, maybe someone else on the forum did. The note is in rough shape, but it still looked peculiar to me. What do other members think -- counterfeit? And if so, what would be a typical price?

DanCong

one on HA looks the same. It is rather grey and flat looking, but I do not know enough about these to opine that it is counterfeit. After all, lots of counterfeits look great.

HA result $27

Berny

It is a counterfeit. Just look at the medallions. However, it is not listed in Haxby or in Hoober.

Berny

It is a counterfeit. Just look at the medallions. However, it is not listed in Haxby or in Hoober.

sellitstore

The Heritage note is C44a, but this counterfeit is a cruder unlisted hybrid of the G44 and G46 designs.

gsalex

I think someone got a bargain on it then. Berny, would you care to put an estimate on what it might bring retail if it was correctly identified?

sellitstore

Maybe, maybe not.

We don't really know how rare this particular cft. is. Even if rare, the value is pretty limited by the grade and general availability of the bank. Maybe $25-50?.

I'd ask the $2 note collectors on this forum, the Omegas, if they have seen this one.

Also check heritage archives but be aware that they made have sold one or two (or more) of these in lots back in the old CAA days, when many obsoletes were sold in lots and not included in the Heritage Archives.

Berny

Here ($29 a couple of years ago) is my version of the unlisted hybrid:





Here is another (not mine) ugly Frankenstein version of C44a:





So not that scarce.

gsalex

Thanks Berny and Sellitstore. Were these notes typically beat up by the counterfeiters to look worn and heavily circulated in order to give them more credibility?

Berny

Originally posted by: gsalex

Thanks Berny. Were these notes typically beat up by the counterfeiters to look worn and heavily circulated in order to give them more credibility?

Yes. It is harder to tell a counterfeit in bad condition.