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Any way to tell a 1965 from a 1985 quarter without seeing the date?

Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
No spaghetti hair, so I know it's not a 95.

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    DNADaveDNADave Posts: 7,239 ✭✭✭✭✭
    75?
    Edited to say...
    Unless someone,s running around making fantasy strikes of 1975 quarters....
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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's not a '65, so I vote for 1985.



    By the way, your coin is a good illustration

    of a double strike, where the coin was partially

    overlapping another planchet when it was

    struck again - so the Rev. of the 2nd strike

    is 'uniface', meaning the rev. die didn't hit

    it, it was laying over the 2nd planchet.



    The 2nd coin would now have a brockage

    strike. If the two were found together,

    you'd have a 'mated pair'
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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: DNADave
    75?
    Edited to say...
    Unless someone,s running around making fantasy strikes of 1975 quarters....


    Oops, I meant 1965 or 1985.
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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: FredWeinberg
    It's not a '65, so I vote for 1985.

    By the way, your coin is a good illustration
    of a double strike, where the coin was partially
    overlapping another planchet when it was
    struck again - so the Rev. of the 2nd strike
    is 'uniface', meaning the rev. die didn't hit
    it, it was laying over the 2nd planchet.

    The 2nd coin would now have a brockage
    strike. If the two were found together,
    you'd have a 'mated pair'


    Interesting information, thanks Fred.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
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    kookoox10kookoox10 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭
    85's have a P mintmark. I would think it's probably a 65.
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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,274 ✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: kookoox10
    85's have a P mintmark. I would think it's probably a 65.


    Yes you're right, now I feel foolish, the "P" mint mark was added beginning 1980.
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,472 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: kookoox10

    85's have a P mintmark. I would think it's probably a 65.




    This. Uh, Fred ? imageimage



    The 1985 mintmark is placed directly adjacent to the tip of George's qeue.

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: kookoox10

    85's have a P mintmark. I would think it's probably a 65.




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    LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Just curious as to how Fred could have missed the MM?

    I guess it happens to the best of us....
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    kookoox10kookoox10 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭
    Fred is still "da man" regardless. Honest oversight for sure.
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    ashelandasheland Posts: 22,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool error!
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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't have Egg on my face, I have an Omelet !



    I totally missed that when I looked at the photo

    in the original post....Sorry - can't believe my

    brain cells weren't flashing properly yesterday.



    My only (weak) excuse - yesterday, I had to get

    up at 4:00 a.m here in LA to get to my office

    early to participate in a breakfast meeting (on the phone for me)

    at Central States - there's a Numismatic Task Force for

    Anti-Counterfeiting, and I'm on it.



    Again, I just wasn't thinking - no good excuse for that mistake!



    Fred
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors
    for PCGS. A 49+-Year PNG Member...A full numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022
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    TopographicOceansTopographicOceans Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭
    To catch Fred with misinformation is extremely rare.

    An error rarer than any error coin he has.
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yep 85's have mint marks. See Coinfacts.



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    TommyTypeTommyType Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You are all discounting the possibility of a 1985 missing mintmark, double struck? image







    That was a good little exercise of our brain matter......
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    orevilleoreville Posts: 11,789 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That had to be a 1965 because it did not possess the increasingly apparent spaghetti hair look seen in the later dated quarters although I do not recall when the spagehetti hair look started? Was it around 1985 to 1990 range?
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 28,350 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: oreville

    That had to be a 1965 because it did not possess the increasingly apparent spaghetti hair look seen in the later dated quarters although I do not recall when the spagehetti hair look started? Was it around 1985 to 1990 range?




    '96.



    People obviously don't have a reference collection of clad quarters.



    The designs pretty much changed every year.
    Tempus fugit.
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,521 ✭✭✭✭✭
    still a nice item to have in ones collection.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fred, I will 'fess up and say that the lack of a mint mark did not dawn on me either until I read down the thread and saw kookoox10's comment about it.
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    braddickbraddick Posts: 23,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Originally posted by: TopographicOceans
    To catch Fred with misinformation is extremely rare.

    An error rarer than any error coin he has.


    Yep!
    I believe he's only made two errors in his whole career. (Of course the first mistake cost him 400K. . .)

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