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Heritage Auctions, Jefferson nickels, I see a pattern.
leothelyon
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Perhaps, "trend" is a better word. But a 1953 PCGS MS66+ coming up, actually tomorrow and this coin is missing Jefferson's ear. And there's only a bid of $20. Collectors are wising up, they want coins that are all there in strike/details, mix of ample luster and color in a mark free environment.
And this next coin, 1944-D NGC MS68 6 Steps, are the steps ok? Such a quality coin would need lots of color luster and the pictures just don't show that.
Just wanted to start a discussion on Jefferson nickels. What you say?
Leo
And this next coin, 1944-D NGC MS68 6 Steps, are the steps ok? Such a quality coin would need lots of color luster and the pictures just don't show that.
Just wanted to start a discussion on Jefferson nickels. What you say?
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
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I think he's a Jefferson collector and would have an opinion but has gone off the grid.
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
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Is this the "van Gogh" variety?
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Is this the "van Gogh" variety?
it's interesting that you chose coins by both NGC and PCGS because I think they have been grading Jefferson Nickels differently for quite a number of years now, NGC getting more strict and PCGS getting less strict. that's just my impression.
one point to consider regarding the 1953: is it beyond the realm of reason that PCGS would grade a date, or range of dates, within a series differently based on what the Mint was doing???
one point to consider regarding the 1953: is it beyond the realm of reason that PCGS would grade a date, or range of dates, within a series differently based on what the Mint was doing???
I believe they do. One example that comes to mind is the 22 no D Lincoln.
I don't mind the coin, actually, it will end up well north if $20 in my opinion.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
this is precisely my point, an even better example might be Branch Mint Buffalo Nickels from the same era. most collectors of the Jefferson series know(or should know) that by the early 1950's the Hub and Master(s) were showing signs of wear and the Working Dies they produced either lacked full detail or wore abnormally quick. as a result, coins they struck also lacked detail and often come looking like that 1953, some of those years having horrendous step detail. things improved slightly around 1958 but went south quickly which is why some of the 1960's dates can't be found with fully struck steps.
If we were all the same, the world would be an incredibly boring place.
Tommy
because it has die polish marks similar to the 53 reverse...................as for the 44D, that is a Very Nice Coin........but 68......hmmm
Steve
they were at one time more relaxed than PCGS and used to issue coins with both a "FS" designation and a "5FS" designation. at that time PCGS required six full steps. currently I really believe PCGS will designate a coin with only five steps while NGC has done away with the "5FS" designation and now requires six steps.
What you say?
5c. Folks like pretty coins they can see in their hand more than coins with hair detail or pillar detail that you need a loupe to see.
Just my opinions of course.
You asked ......
Your points are very well stated and I agree with all of them, especially to the point quoted above. +100 to that one!!!!!!
This coin should go for at least $600, IMO.
Leo
The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!
My Jefferson Nickel Collection
Leo"
Leo. You were an underbidder on the NGC-MS68FS 6 st.?
Wondercoin
(NGC has always been tougher with FS than PCGS).
they were at one time more relaxed than PCGS and used to issue coins with both a "FS" designation and a "5FS" designation. at that time PCGS required six full steps. currently I really believe PCGS will designate a coin with only five steps while NGC has done away with the "5FS" designation and now requires six steps.
I think this is wrong. My understanding is that PCGS has always required only five steps for a FS designation. Prior to April of 2003, NGC required all six steps to be designated as FS. In April of 2003, NGC switched to a 5FS and 6FS designation respectively. NGC is almost universally stricter with strike designations (compare FB Mercury Dime, FT Roosevelt Dime, and FBL Franklin Half Dollar standards).