Do you ever wonder if certain cards exist or not? ETA: MY WHITE WHALE LANDED!

maddux69

The term "white whale" has been used before and that infers that one has at least seen that whale in some form along the way. I have been searching for one of my "white whales" for quite some time, searching the seas high and low and even into treacherous waters, i.e. Beckett Marketplace, to no avail. I have never seen this white whale, a 1993 Lykes Braves Standard Greg Maddux for sale or even a picture of its existence. The Standard Catalog lists it as #20 in the set of 38, though that is all I have to go on. There was a perforated set produced as 1 sheet along with a standard card that has a blue background in which 3 cards were given to kids on Tuesday home games. Is anyone in the same boat where it has driven you as mad as Captain Ahab?

DanBessette

Yup. My current white whale is only myth to me. Some people have told me they've seen it, but I've never even seen a photo.

bishop

These are all listed in the SCD Standard Catalog but I have not seen one
62 Topps stamp of Sievers with KC team, not Phils
67 Topps Punch Outs--Campaneris/Gibson/Grote/McMillan/ B Robinson
68 Topps Plaqs--Peters/F Robinson/ Drysdale/ Aaron/ Mays (maybe one)
02 Topps 160 Pujols with actual picture and no cap on back

Rumor only-- Topps 1959 Bill White without trade line

maddux69

Rumor only-- Topps 1959 Bill White without trade line

Searching for something such as that could drive anybody mad! I can only imagine somebody searching through countless dollar boxes at shows hoping to find one.

VitoCo1972

In the autographed card world, it's a constant wonder. And then when you do find out one exists it's a crazy novelty.

DanBessette

Originally posted by: VitoCo1972

In the autographed card world, it's a constant wonder. And then when you do find out one exists it's a crazy novelty.

Yeah, I'm not deep into autographs like you or Casey, but I do find that aspect of it fascinating.

jackstraw

1998 Upper Deck Eminent Prestige Jumbos. Never seen one of any player? Was a mail in redemption..

bobsbbcards

Ashland Oil Grand Slam Baseball - Maloney

maddux69

Since Casey brought up hard to find autos, here is one I have. Only certified copy on record of any of the big 3, none certified of his 1950 Bowman. Notre Dame legend who started all 4 years, never missed a game or lost a game. Unfortunately, his college career didn't translate to the professional level.

MULLINS5

Originally posted by: DanBessette

Yup. My current white whale is only myth to me. Some people have told me they've seen it, but I've never even seen a photo.

Is this still your white whale Dan?



I don't own the card. Found the image online. It sold at auction several years ago.

DanBessette

Yes, holy crap, that's it!



I swear, I've googled it a hundred times. Thanks for the pic!



I also had no idea Til I saw that pic that they misspelled Cappelletti's name.



Thanks again!

RipublicaninMass

Signed set world...we can only hope that the cards exist we need for completion. Other years and brands might havesurface, but to find that one obscure guy on a certain year and brand can drive you crazy!

jmmiller777

Great jobs Mullins5, that's what makes this community such a valuable part of collecting!

rexvos

I collect everything from Tim Rattay's 2000 rookie season. In almost 16 years of daily searches on eBay I have yet to see any of the following

2000 ultra platinum medallion
2000 sp authentic signatures gold /13
2000 fleer autographix gold
2000 leaf certified gold (not the promo)

Not super rare 1/1s. Found a few of those, but none of these

frankhardy

Originally posted by: bishop
These are all listed in the SCD Standard Catalog but I have not seen one
62 Topps stamp of Sievers with KC team, not Phils
67 Topps Punch Outs--Campaneris/Gibson/Grote/McMillan/ B Robinson
68 Topps Plaqs--Peters/F Robinson/ Drysdale/ Aaron/ Mays (maybe one)
02 Topps 160 Pujols with actual picture and no cap on back

Rumor only-- Topps 1959 Bill White without trade line

Al,

I thought that the 1967 Topps Punchout Bob Gibson was ruled out and does not exist. I may be wrong, but I thought it was a consensus that it does not exist. One thing is for certain....I surely hope it doesn't exist!

As for the 2002 Topps #160 Albert Pujols with Pujols pictured on the back instead of Placido Polanco... I do not believe that one exists either. I believe it only exists on the Chrome and the Chrome Refractor. I have both and the picture is corrected on both of those cards. But on the regular base card, the picture on the back is Polanco and I don't think it was ever corrected. If I am wrong on this, then I need to go back to searching for one. I searched for a long time without finding one, and then it seems like someone, or some people, somewhere, at some point in time agreed with me that one does not exist. (That was vague, wasn't it?)

My white whale? A 2001 Topps Chrome Retrofractor #146 Fernando Tatis. This card is less than $5 and I have been looking for one for several years now.

Tere1071

Here's another one- the 2009 Topps Heritage variation of Derek Jeter with the Red Sox logo. I have seen two pictures and one came up for auction about three years ago which sold for $200. I have yet to see one on eBay and wonder if it's a case of it being held onto, or if it's truly an SSP. It's one of the four variations I need in 2009 for me to have a master set plus each of the variations. If anyone has one for sale...

bishop

Shane-- I do not think any of the cards in my above list exist, but was following up on OP's point about looking for cards listed by SCD or Beckett as existing in their published checklists. I have a 62 Stamp set, 67 Punch Out set and 68 Plaq set, so I, like you, hope they do not exist

If it helps any, I will agree with you on the 2002 base Pujols.

AUPT

The Topps '62 stamp, '67 punch-outs and '68 plaques that Al mentioned were removed from the listings in the Standard Catalog a few editions back, though the set intro to the '62 stamps still erroneously mentions the Sievers - A's.

charrigan

Finding cards that I think exist but am not sure do is one of the most enjoyable parts of the hobby for me.

Dan: now you can make "WANTED: DEAD OR ALIVE" posters to pass around at the Mansfield Show. You've got your target.

frankhardy

Originally posted by: bishop
Shane-- I do not think any of the cards in my above list exist, but was following up on OP's point about looking for cards listed by SCD or Beckett as existing in their published checklists. I have a 62 Stamp set, 67 Punch Out set and 68 Plaq set, so I, like you, hope they do not exist

If it helps any, I will agree with you on the 2002 base Pujols.

I must have misunderstood. I thought you were still thinking that they may exist. Glad we are on the same page! Yes, that makes me feel better!

Griffins

I've been looking for a few '09 and '10 Heritage ad panels for years- they are supposed to exist, but no one has seen them and they don't pop up. And no one seems to care much about that subset, so I'll keep looking but increasingly doubt I'll find anything.
I'm also looking for '48 and '49 Bowman baseball packs. I know of at least one '49, but no idea if the '48 exists. PSA hasn't graded one and GAI never was organized enough to have a pop report.

halosfan

There are a handful of cards I am not sure that were ever produced for sets I am building ....

maddux69

Struck a deal with a fellow Greg Maddux collector and I am happy to say that the 1993 Lykes Standard Greg Maddux has been snagged! I have been looking for this one card or even evidence of its existence for years. I have picked up quite a few perforated sets, but the standard card has eluded me until now. I plan to send it off to PSA at some point as it is in the SCD Standard Catalog so it should be able to be slabbed.

Kid4hof03

Congratulations! Great card!

JoeBanzai

SWEET!

JBrules

Congrats!!!!

ahopkins

Awesome! I love theses kinds of tuffys.

craig44

Very nice!!

JKT

Awesome. Congrats!

1963ellsworth22and10

@bobsbbcards said:
Ashland Oil Grand Slam Baseball - Maloney

At least one exists

maddux69

Thank you all! It was part of a lot that included many Greg Maddux rarities, many of which I haven't seen before. I may have to start a new thread to document some of it as I am sure many Braves and Cubs collectors will find interesting, such as a 1987 Kodak/WGN Radio Photo Day Premium.

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1963ellsworth22and10

If someone has proof that a 1972 Topps Venezuelan Sticker #87 Jose Cardenal exists I would be most grateful. It would be the card that is missing in the upper right corner of this 1972 sticker album.

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1963ellsworth22and10

@MLBdays said:
@1963ellsworth22and10 ...I have the last copy in existence .. paypal me 2.2 million. I know its hefty but ~Free shipping!

I'll PayPal you $20 for a scan

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Zoot66

Mine is #223. Did they make 2?

@1963ellsworth22and10 said:

If someone has proof that a 1972 Topps Venezuelan Sticker #87 Jose Cardenal exists I would be most grateful. It would be the card that is missing in the upper right corner of this 1972 sticker album.

1963ellsworth22and10

@Zoot66 said:
Mine is #223. Did they make 2?

You are thinking of this Winter League card, the card I am looking for would have green borders and have CACHORROS (CUBS) printed at the top.

Stone193

Wow - congratulations Jason!

Is Lykes a meat company or something?

maddux69

@Stone193 said:
Wow - congratulations Jason!

Is Lykes a meat company or something?

Thank you! They are a regional company and were the official hot dog of the Braves at the time. The Braves switched over to Bryan around 96 or so and they began supplying promotional cards from the fans.